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Old 09-30-2011, 09:27 AM   #16
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Formula SAE was awesome. I was on my school's team back in the day. I kind of wish I had put more effort into it and gone to work for a motorsports team, but I didn't know any better and our team didn't have much funding. The solar car team had a million dollar budget Would be awesome to be working for an F1 team now
Anyhow, here's more info http://students.sae.org/competitions/formulaseries/
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:17 AM   #17
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My 3rd lap at the event ( holy crap this cars fun... As poorly tuned as it is)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwXZpA0Kkrc

Also on the grand prix track there were touring cars and a few E30's ill post pics as soon as I get em
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:31 AM   #18
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That's awesome! How did you guys fair against your competition? You did some mighty fine driving there Mike. How much seat time do you have in that car? I'm guessing not much. Can you bring it to the autocross on the 15th?
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:48 AM   #19
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Why thank you sir! And we didn't do so hot, out of the 4 drivers I was the only one to do the track properly :S (they average the times)... By 3rd lap its 3rd lap ever lol, all that other autocross expirience , the other laps I didn't spin tho and I will try and get it out for the event! Well see what everyone else on the teams doin that day...
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:55 AM   #20
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And by the car being poorly tuned currently I mean :

50/50 brake bias
Almost 0 front camber
No antiroll bar
0 toe
.... I won't get into reasons why its so bad, but it reminded me of a lambo, or the koningseg when on top gear they say its mad and will kill you
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:01 AM   #21
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Yeah, in the video it looked soooo twitchy. Did you guys have no time, or no budget? You can see it going from mild understeer to snap oversteer, to almost uncorrectable tail wagging at the hint of breathing on the throttle. It seemed like take it very gingerly through the turns, then get it pointed completely straight and then apply some, but not full throttle then brake gingerly, etc, etc. The brake bias at 50/50? Why? shouldn't it be more like 70/30 front/rear, especially for a car with that layout? What is the final weight distribution?
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:44 AM   #22
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Formula SAE was awesome. I was on my school's team back in the day.
+1 FSAE is what got me into racing.

I went to Carleton where it was part of the curriculum. Not much funding, so we had to get a bunch of sponsorship, but it was awesome.

We were at the competition at MIS in 2009 - It was the first year we made the design semi-finals, but one of our wheels sheered off in the endurance race so we didn't finish that event.

Really a great experience - if you have the opportunity to do it, DO IT!
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:04 PM   #23
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Yeah, in the video it looked soooo twitchy. Did you guys have no time, or no budget? You can see it going from mild understeer to snap oversteer, to almost uncorrectable tail wagging at the hint of breathing on the throttle. It seemed like take it very gingerly through the turns, then get it pointed completely straight and then apply some, but not full throttle then brake gingerly, etc, etc. The brake bias at 50/50? Why? shouldn't it be more like 70/30 front/rear, especially for a car with that layout? What is the final weight distribution?
Yah everythings fully adjustable it came down to time..
And the brake bias is soo off cause I was the first guy out, and was the luckey one to notice while driving :S...
As well the engine tune is good but when you cross from brakes to gas there's a dead spot then a surge of power, so its hard to find that smooth sweet spot
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+1 FSAE is what got me into racing.

I went to Carleton where it was part of the curriculum. Not much funding, so we had to get a bunch of sponsorship, but it was awesome.

We were at the competition at MIS in 2009 - It was the first year we made the design semi-finals, but one of our wheels sheered off in the endurance race so we didn't finish that event.

Really a great experience - if you have the opportunity to do it, DO IT!
We don't get to do it as part of our projects, its extra caricular ... But our school does give us lots of funding, and as for sponsorship, me mostly get material for free... This competitions awesome

Did you get a job in motorsports??
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No i didn't but a bunch of my teamates did. I wanted to stay in Ottawa - but I'm working in an automotive field anyways so it's not so bad
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:59 AM   #26
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Also did fsae...same story. solar car got all the funds(wtf lame) shit in fact every student pays into it as part of tuition!!

yet we had to struggle to get sponsors on our own. pretty cheese. it was a lot of fun (and work) though.

Buddy of mine works for prodrive now! though he did go on to do his masters after undergrad.

automotive field is weak unless you get into a great motorsports company/team IMHO.
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Yeah, in the video it looked soooo twitchy. Did you guys have no time, or no budget? You can see it going from mild understeer to snap oversteer, to almost uncorrectable tail wagging at the hint of breathing on the throttle. It seemed like take it very gingerly through the turns, then get it pointed completely straight and then apply some, but not full throttle then brake gingerly, etc, etc. The brake bias at 50/50? Why? shouldn't it be more like 70/30 front/rear, especially for a car with that layout? What is the final weight distribution?
heh.
designing and building a car from ground up is a huge feat to undertake especially since its all on your own time outside of regular course work.

getting the car complete is a feat in itself from project management to manufacturing etc...getting it set up amazing is on a whole new level. Any of the awesome teams typically have huge budgets...something majority of the Canadian Universities dont have.

The management of the entire project is a huge undertaking.
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^Yup. We were competing against a couple European teams that had $200k+ budgets, and the students had been working on the car for 3-4years.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:06 PM   #29
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yah and most of them are masters students..... alot of teams are movin to carbon monocoque's... soon as bombardier lets us use their autoclave (LOL) im sure well try one day

I'm hopin to get into afermarket parts/touring car racing, well see how that goes
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good luck dude!

I've found personally that keeping racing/motorsports as a hobby is better career-wise. My job (with the federal gov't) offers safety & stability, as well as flexibility to have fun on the side

I also started volunteering for a touring car team this summer (8Legs Racing - ScoTcH on the forums), which has been a blast
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