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Old 08-29-2011, 01:15 PM   #1
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Clean E30's

I mean clean. Mint meaning Mint. No surface rust, no perforations, no bubbling. Nothing broken, no leaks. Road worthy with many many years left in her. Preferably not painted, but if painted, before photos, no bondo, must have cut out the rust and welded new metal in...

I've been watching the board and kijiji/trader for almost 2 months now and other than 1 325sedan (silver/grey.. not my first choice) I haven't seen anything clean go up for sale. Well a couple nice looking coupes but I don't want to suck myself into selling a coupe (RSX) just to buy another coupe.

So.. what I'm trying to do is get all you tasteful E30 owners to post up your babies and then try to figure out which one of you is going to sell me their car.

I've checked Vegas, I've checked florida. And there is one I could eat off of in Florida, but by the time it's landed it'll cost me a small fortune.

I'd prefer a cabrio, but a sedan has it's uses too. Manual transmission is a must.

Show me the minty-fresh bling before I bitch out and buy a 272whp Miata from a friend.

I get the impression a proper clean example would go for around 6K. I would pay more if the stars align.

Or am I dreaming and every time someone gets their car perfect, something else breaks. Tell me I should be avoiding an old german car. That it's a money pit. That they don't drive all that well to begin with.
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:19 PM   #2
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:38 PM   #3
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They ARE money pits, but even if you buy one and put several grand into it making it somewhat like new again you are still getting what many people want for relatively cheap - light, stylish, well built, RWD, independent suspension, decent power for an older car (if you have an m20b25 or m42). That being said, if I lived in the rust belt there is no ****ing way I would drive an older car.
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:51 PM   #4
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How much is the one in Florida?
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:25 PM   #5
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GL finding one. the only way you will if it was rebuilt from ground up or a Garage queen from pretty much day one. We're talking 20+ year old cars that were pretty much daily drivers. If you go states side you can find a rust free car BUT! don't expect it to be the "queens plate silverware."

contrary to some of the comments; if you don't mind spending a bit more on gas since the engine management system isn't all the sophisticated it is better built then most newer cars and more reliable then most. and NO they aren't money pits. Be realistic. 20+ year old parts and nothing is going to come up for replacement?

Be prepared to spend some money to get them to reasonable condition. Spend smart. Fix what is most important. if you buy one in exception cond you will still need to service the car. Knowing where to find good quality parts and someone to fix it is key. Unless you DIY.

and for those looking for the "pie and the sky" deal. get real. the barn yard find so to speak is everyone's dream. Finding that 10 Karat diamond and paying nothing for it? the car will be extinct btt you do find one.

are you looking for an investment or are you looking for enjoyment or both?

there is good reason as to why they are still on the road..
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:27 PM   #6
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How much is the one in Florida?
$7350 and it's burgundy.. which I could put up with.. if it was only $7350 for it to end up in my driveway.
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:34 PM   #7
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$7350 and it's burgundy.. which I could put up with.. if it was only $7350 for it to end up in my driveway.
btt it is shipped up -container - 800-1000 plus taxes and transfer across border you're looking at about 1200.00. generally prices states side are cheaper as I have looked plenty. So 7350 better get you a hot porn star with it so that you two can make out on the hood...LOL
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2 325i 4 dr - sold
4 318is all white - sold and parts
1 87 325is red - parts
1 89 325i vert grey - parts
1 90 325is white - keepin
1 87 325i vert -red - keepin
latest addition 1 88-325is red - parts
latest addition 1 89-325i vert - white -fixin/sold
latest addition 1 92-318i vert - blue - parts
latest addition 1 87 325is blk - parts.

latest addition as of 2013-Gold 87-325is auto! it's a keeper!
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:44 PM   #8
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If you go states side you can find a rust free car BUT! don't expect it to be the "queens plate silverware."

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Be realistic. 20+ year old parts and nothing is going to come up for replacement?

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there is good reason as to why they are still on the road..
I suppose my post is a bit misleading as to what I'm looking for/expect. I'm just want to see proof that excellent E30's exist.

I don't mind wrenching. I can swap engines, it's no biggie. But trying to find one that isn't full of holes (or about to be full of holes) with a bunch of other issues (many prohibiting a safety certificate) means I'm buying a headache out of the box.

I'm looking for one that's not a headache out of the box. Body work is the most time consuming and the most expensive from my perspective (no welding skills).

But also keep this in mind. I had a 92 Civic VX with over 300K on it.. I smacked the snot out of that bitch at the track, I had it for .. I dunno 4 or 5 years. The only thing that went bad on it was a cold solder joint on the fuel relay switch (happens to most of them). Engine/tranny swap is same day and $400 for each part. Now I don't expect that from the E30, but I don't expect far from it either. RWD is nice, but I can go awfully quick in FWD too.

Price wise, there are many good, light, reasonably peppy cars you can get for this kind of money (6-7K for 'clean') or less. I like the look of the E30's. I wouldn't mind driving a "classic" car (I wouldn't put more than 5K on it a year I'm sure). But so far my search has shown a lot of problem cars and almost none that are ready for the road (cert/etest).

Anyhow I'd like to go this route, but it just looks like it may be more trouble than it's worth. I haven't seen much of an indication that these cars are any more reliable than anything else that actually survived since the late 80's. I mean okay.. so they're still on the road.. but for how long. I think I'm getting into the game at the tail end of their life now. Anyhow I could be wrong.. hence the post. Where's the sick cars people haven't spent 10, 20, 30K more into?

Magical Unicorn indeed.

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Old 08-29-2011, 02:54 PM   #9
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So 7350 better get you a hot porn star with it so that you two can make out on the hood...LOL
Well that's kinda my point. Landed I'm pushing 10K at best, probably more like 12K after it's all said and done. If I'm spending 10 I'm looking at a different kind of car, I'd probably grab an MR-S (already imported) at that price.

Anyhow if I'm going to keep/maintain a classic car. I'd like to start from a good base. I don't have the time to restore a car. I can fix it mechanically but even then I need it to actually run. No imminent catastrophic failures.

Still hoping someone has something enticing available... there just seems to be a bit of a chasm from what I want to what's available.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:38 PM   #10
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Come to BC and you can buy mine for eight grand ... I bought it for a little over four and have done a lot of maintenance.
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:24 PM   #11
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Come to BC and you can buy mine for eight grand ... I bought it for a little over four and have done a lot of maintenance.
8 grand is a brand new car, isn't that an m3 you got?
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:03 PM   #12
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Daveed: Show me.

8K for a new car? Is that like Mint = only a little rust with just one crack in the dash (not that replacing a dash is hard or expensive)?
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:04 PM   #13
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They ARE out there. Find someone's baby: something that someone spent a lot of money "getting right". Odds are, you'll pick it up for way less then they put into it.
I found a great daily that had been imported from Texas. 80k miles, $2100. It was auto, but that's not too hard to fix. The body and undercarriage were MINT and it ran like a million bucks...the A/C even worked great.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:18 PM   #14
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Ah yes, Texas, I totaly forgot to check there, I have friends that live there now. I could probably even get them to vet 1 or 2 before making a financial commitment on it.

Yes.. still based on the rarity of E30's in south florida (3 on trader) and vegas (2), I'm not holding my breath. (yeah I tried ebayclassifieds and craigslist... pickings are slim and I'm spending waaaay too much time on this as it is)
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:21 PM   #15
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I'd try r3vlimited.com and e30tech.com for an enthusiast owned car. While you're less likely to get a deal buying a "grandma car", it's easier to figure out the car's history.
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