Mohawks set up camp in Toronto's High Park - Page 2

sirex · 05-18-2011, 04:17 PM

man props to people doing those jumps.. I ride by there all the time and just too scared to even attempt a jump - granted im not on the proper gear either.. But the jumps look pretty daunting.

Guess Im glad, Id probably end up dieing and then my soul would be traped by the indian souls that were also burried there.

PinkieMoscow · 05-18-2011, 06:08 PM

Can't believe they're doing this at the highpark jumps. I hardly doubt that is an ancient Indian burial ground. Guaranteed I have more hours clock digging in that soil then any archaeologist appointed by the municipality to help prove this bogus. My concern is for the bmx'ers. There are so few places to bmx now (not considering skateparks). Toronto parks and recreation FTL.

fitter527 · 05-18-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 325isdan

You need a history lesson.

nah,i really don't.
The government of Canada is guilty of genocide against first nations people. We owe them more then any of us will ever know.

nah,we really don't.

sirex · 05-18-2011, 11:07 PM

I dont think you guys need to hate on the Indians that much.

noodles101 · 05-18-2011, 11:31 PM

wow...this is crazy . few years ago when i was in high school me and my buddies used to hit those dirt jumps everyyy single day lol....

BMXWill · 05-19-2011, 12:23 AM

RIP High Park Trails.. Having your trails plowed is inevitable when you don't own the property you're digging on. I've been in this position about 10 times before. Ontario hasn't yet realized that places like this are great for the community, it's sad really.

Everyone that rides BMX is aware of the risk involved and also accepts the consequences. It's unfortunate when a kid gets hurt and the parents don't respect the sport that he's into and look for a law suit. There are so many cases of guys crawling out of the trails to prevent an ambulance from having to come and risk having the jumps plowed. Definitely not something most people will understand and I don't expect them to. People spend years building these places with nothing but a shovel so it's always a shame when they get torn down.

Most people will say that BMXers should get permission or build on their own property but 99% of the time it's started by 10 year old kids in the closest forest to their house with out a care in the world and naive to some realities. Innocent fun!

DTM · 05-19-2011, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BMXWill

RIP High Park Trails.. Having your trails plowed is inevitable when you don't own the property you're digging on. I've been in this position about 10 times before. Ontario hasn't yet realized that places like this are great for the community, it's sad really.

Everyone that rides BMX is aware of the risk involved and also accepts the consequences. It's unfortunate when a kid gets hurt and the parents don't respect the sport that he's into and look for a law suit. There are so many cases of guys crawling out of the trails to prevent an ambulance from having to come and risk having the jumps plowed. Definitely not something most people will understand and I don't expect them to. People spend years building these places with nothing but a shovel so it's always a shame when they get torn down.

Most people will say that BMXers should get permission or build on their own property but 99% of the time it's started by 10 year old kids in the closest forest to their house with out a care in the world and naive to some realities. Innocent fun!

Yes, yes, yes. I remember when I broke my collarbone (in half) I had to walk myself out of the jumps (not high park but I did ride there also) with my bike and pack (I left my shovel) and wait for my parents to come pick me up and drive me to the hospital.
But it's true, the kids are the only ones that are going to suffer, and for what? ...Because some people may or may not have been buried there a century or so ago. They care more about someone who's been gone for that long more than people that are alive today...doesn't seem right to me.

noodles101 · 05-19-2011, 12:56 AM

ya man idunno who built it but the high park jumps are awsome..as far as i remmber. lol ..

building a 5 foot jump + 5 feet gap. takes about 2 or 3 days of shoveling / hauling big gallons of water each time to make the dirt harden. LOLL been there done that yo !

propr'one · 05-19-2011, 12:50 PM

I'm gonna miss HP. You guys think you had it rough, i could ride my bike to the jumps in 10 minutes from my parents house.

StikiGreenZ · 05-19-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM

Yes, yes, yes. I remember when I broke my collarbone (in half) I had to walk myself out of the jumps (not high park but I did ride there also) with my bike and pack (I left my shovel) and wait for my parents to come pick me up and drive me to the hospital.
But it's true, the kids are the only ones that are going to suffer, and for what? ...Because some people may or may not have been buried there a century or so ago. They care more about someone who's been gone for that long more than people that are alive today...doesn't seem right to me.

You might feel differently if that were your father or grand father buried there. They have a legitimate claim on the land. You don't see anyone riding BMX's bouncing off tombstones right?

BMW BMXer · 05-19-2011, 01:53 PM

Have the actually proven the land to be burial ground yet?

I didn't read all of the article

noodles101 · 05-19-2011, 02:25 PM

no they said the city of toronto workers digged 40 different places to see if it was actually a burial ground and they havent found anything.

40 differnt places and didnt find anything? then..i highly doubt it is one.

and mohawk warriors found out about this NOW? why not decades ago BEFORE highpark was built. ??

dont bash on me guys but in my opinion, they jus wanted a little bit of the nice park turned into their burial ground so city can put up some signs up for them and etc.

noodles101 · 05-19-2011, 02:27 PM

more chance of small ground of a city park turned into a burial thing then protesting saying....yonge and finch condo is their burial ground.

DTM · 05-19-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by StikiGreenZ

You might feel differently if that were your father or grand father buried there. They have a legitimate claim on the land. You don't see anyone riding BMX's bouncing off tombstones right?

You're right that I might feel differently IF someone was buried there, but from what tests have shown is that in the location of the jumps themselves, there is no evidence of it being a burial ground of any sort. Also, yes, if there were marked graves then there would have never been jumps there in the first place. The fact remains is that it is city land, and I disagree that they have a legitimate claim to the land. Also, if they did, then they shouldn't impose themselves, hijack the land and intimidate others off of it. But seeing as they themselves are likely primitives, they have not the slightest clue on how to properly address the situation.

Euro_7 · 05-20-2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by daytona

We owe them???..which people did the natives take the land from?...or does your history of Canada starts in the late 1800...

Please do some research into 'Residential Schools', maybe you can enlighten yourself. These people have pride in what they are doing, and all the power to them. Why don't we protest the retarded gas prices or insurance rates for example...maybe because we lack that cohesiveness. We don't owe them anything, but the government sure as hell does and I am sure you can respect that.

DTM, the land claims have been an on-going issue for quite a while now. All land claims need to be processed through some bureaucratic bullshit. So they aren't primitive, but most likely just fed up with the government's bullshit. And instead of writing letters, calling, etc. the government, they have decided to step it up.