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05-10-2011, 03:59 PM
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5th Gear Member
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where to buy paint
Need to paint the front clip of my car. The bumper is the harder part, since it has lots of chips. Was told high build primer is the way to go here, but can only get it in gallons which is way too much.
Also need base/clear. Again clear only comes in gallons.... wtf ?
Anyone know where you can buy less than a gallon of both clear and primer ?
Dave
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05-10-2011, 04:15 PM
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c-max from napa can sell you different quantities - high build primer is avail in spray form
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05-10-2011, 04:15 PM
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also plastic will require flex additive - expensive
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06-01-2011, 06:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcramer
Need to paint the front clip of my car. The bumper is the harder part, since it has lots of chips. Was told high build primer is the way to go here, but can only get it in gallons which is way too much.
Also need base/clear. Again clear only comes in gallons.... wtf ?
Anyone know where you can buy less than a gallon of both clear and primer ?
Dave
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Try paint circuit. They'll sell paint from gallons to touch-up bottle size. The problem I have is I can't get a small quantity of reducer these days. I used to be able to by a pint of chromabase reducer. Now, with water-based paints, I can't. Is there anyway I can get a pint of reducer for Dupont Cromax?
You'd think you could use water for water-based paint. Guess not, at least not for Dupont. Hear it's possible to use water for Standox but can't buy that in half-pint sizes.
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06-01-2011, 06:55 AM
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Well, I've been told not to bother trying to paint with water based in your garage. Too hard to dry. Yes, reducer it the problem. can find everything else but in quarts or pints
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06-02-2011, 12:21 AM
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if you make it to Toronto, at Kipling and the Queensway theres a place called NCS (national coatings and supplies), they got everything you need for bodywork pretty much, and theres a place next door that also sells paint but I havent checked that one out yet... they will also mix a paint and put it into a spray can for you, although you cant beat a spray gun  .... they also know their stuff so whatevery your paintin they'll fix you up with what you need to do it properly... and in an appropriate size.... although reducer prob wont come in a very small amount
Last edited by DIY; 06-02-2011 at 12:26 AM.
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06-02-2011, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcramer
Well, I've been told not to bother trying to paint with water based in your garage. Too hard to dry. Yes, reducer it the problem. can find everything else but in quarts or pints
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I heard the drying is the issue as well. But for a cosmetic touch up, a small airbrush and a hair dryer might do. Have yet to try it though. I've done cosmetic touch ups before with a modeler's airbrush and it works okay for scuffs or scratches less than palm size.
I wonder why it's so tough to get a small quantity of reducer? Not economical to make such a small size? But a gallon is $100! How many pints in a gallon?
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06-02-2011, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DIY
if you make it to Toronto, at Kipling and the Queensway theres a place called NCS (national coatings and supplies), they got everything you need for bodywork pretty much, and theres a place next door that also sells paint but I havent checked that one out yet... they will also mix a paint and put it into a spray can for you, although you cant beat a spray gun  .... they also know their stuff so whatevery your paintin they'll fix you up with what you need to do it properly... and in an appropriate size.... although reducer prob wont come in a very small amount
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Paint Circuit is nearby as well!
I've only tried smaller guns, modeler size. Nothing big. My problem with the can is it sprays too little paint. It seems a little thin. With clear in a can, how many times should I mist it? 3? 4 times?
Last edited by 4doors; 06-02-2011 at 12:55 PM.
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06-02-2011, 09:58 PM
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So the solution here is to team up and buy paint and split the gallon of reducer. Assumes we are buying the same brand of paint. But I'm in. Anyone else ?
Dave
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06-02-2011, 10:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcramer
So the solution here is to team up and buy paint and split the gallon of reducer. Assumes we are buying the same brand of paint. But I'm in. Anyone else ?
Dave
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Sounds like a good idea but I want a run a test in the next week. I've heard it's hard to shoot water-based from an airbrush. I have a small sample of the 'controller' (waterborune's equivalent of reducer) so I'll try it and see what happens.
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06-02-2011, 11:03 PM
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I've gotten a quart size reducer at the NCS place... Also I have a few friends who just used paint thinner (like the stuff from home depot) and came out with decent results, but I'm sure it depends on the paint
Last edited by DIY; 06-03-2011 at 01:34 AM.
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06-03-2011, 07:04 AM
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Well I have been told that all reducer is the same. It is quite likely true. I guess it just evaporates anyway ??? Anyone have a definitive answer ?
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04-03-2012, 10:49 PM
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As far as I know the reducer for oil based and 'controller' for water base are very different indeed. The reason for moving to water based paints was to reduce VOCs. The VOCs are caused by the reducer/thinner/controller. They'd have to be different, no?
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04-04-2012, 06:09 AM
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no question these are different. The discussion was if you are using brand-x paint can you use brand-y reducer
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