track brake upgrades

dcramer · 05-02-2011, 07:51 AM

Was at mosport this weekend with the bmw club, great weekend. Managed to cook my front brakes, so ... I'm in the market for front rotors and pads.

Option 1: performance friction rotors and pads, somewhere between 500-700 for a complete setup of floating rotors and pads

Option 2: decent set of non drilled rotors and one of pagid, hawk, or performance friction pads somewhere around 500-600 figuring about 200 for rotors and 350ish for pads.

I'd love to hear opinions.

Dave

richie_s999 · 05-02-2011, 08:54 AM

great meeting you this weekend, you looked like you were having a good time!

I can get you a price on Hawk pads, PM me the car info.

rotors, alot of people seem to like the Euro M3 oem ones

dcramer · 05-02-2011, 09:06 AM

Hi Rich,

Nice meeting you as well, great weekend, other than my boiled brakes

. Upside was that the second day was better because my brakes were mush, so I didn't rely on them as much. I will definitely be out again!

Car is an E36 M3 1998. Re the rotors. bimmerspecialist has them for 220 each, that's 440 in rotors alone. The performance friction kit from bimmerworld is 576, rotors, track/street pads, and brass bushings. Added advantage is that the 2 piece rotor is cheaper to buy the second time. Doesn't seem like a reasonable option to me.

I am interested in the price on the hawk pads though.

Dave

**T.Dot_E30** · 05-02-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dcramer

. The performance friction kit from bimmerworld is 576, rotors, track/street pads, and brass bushings.

Keep in mind, buying from bimmerworld will incur shipping and customs/taxes. that can easily be $100-200.

I recommend Brembo Blanks and Hawk HPS pads for a daily/few track days. You can get hasher pads if you don't daily the car or plan to be at the track alot.

Plus some fresh brake fluid.

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Originally Posted by dcramer

Added advantage is that the 2 piece rotor is cheaper to buy the second time.

Replacements discs are still $180+ each, +shipping + customs fees/taxes.

You'll have to be really serious track person to need them. Even then, most e36s i've seen at the track yesterday where on euro rotors and a good set of pads.

richie_s999 · 05-02-2011, 09:51 AM

+1 on good brake fluid, I sell the Motul RBF 600, some of your fade could be from boiling the regular brake fluid.

craz azn · 05-02-2011, 10:15 AM

On our E36, we run slotted Euro rotors, and run PBR Ceramic pads (also known as Axxis Ultimates). Awesome setup for the money, lasted well over an entire season with almost half the pad material still left. Pretty awesome for a street pad that gets abused in heavy track and racing situations. Anyone that tells me these pads suck are either retarded or doing something wrong.

dcramer · 05-02-2011, 10:35 AM

Where can we get Axxis Ultimates in Canada ? Price ?

Dave

craz azn · 05-02-2011, 10:43 AM

Sent you a PM Dave.

dble Trouble · 05-02-2011, 09:44 PM

Hi Dave it was also great to meet you this weekend. Nice car too!

Rudy (craz azn) Those PBR ceramics suck!

dcramer · 05-02-2011, 09:46 PM

Thanks man, great meeting you as well! The car is a work in progress though. Bought it in the states last fall in much worse shape than it was on the weekend. Didn't count on the brake upgrade though. Funny enough my pedal is back today...

I will definitely be out for another one of these, they are well worth it.

dble Trouble · 05-02-2011, 09:47 PM

^^Just Kidding. Those are what I use on my car with Brembo rotors and the Motul Brake fluid that Richie is selling.

Dave I also recommend the euro rotors, PBR Ceramics and Motul fluid, maybe steel braided brake lines as well. With this set up you'll never feel fade again on Mosport, it's not a hard braking track at all.

When I had my e36 328 I ran stock rotors and pads but top level brake fluid and never had fade either.

craz azn · 05-02-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dble Trouble

Hi Dave it was also great to meet you this weekend. Nice car too!

Rudy (craz azn) Those PBR ceramics suck!

LOL. Retard.

I had to! haha

dble Trouble · 05-02-2011, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craz azn

LOL. Retard.

I had to! haha

I knew it was coming.......

I had too as well!

dcramer · 05-03-2011, 06:28 PM

Does anyone know if the euro rotors fit over the 143mm hubs. I have one 143 hub, and on 139mm hub. I had pretty much decided to go with the performance friction rotors, but now I have to buy a wheel bearing to make that work. Still price is pretty much the same except for the wheel bearing. Euro rotors 220 each, plus pads 600 - 700 depending on pads. performance friction around 700 for rotors and pads

dcramer · 05-05-2011, 06:18 AM

So decided to go the cheap route due to the wheel bearing. Brembro blanks and PBR pads.

Who sells PBR pads in Canada ?