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Old 04-18-2011, 09:35 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Is it worth filling up with ethanol free gas ?



It looks like Shell & Husky 91 have ethanol free gas.

87 Octane 10% ethanol
89 Octane 5% ethanol
91 Octane 0% ethanol

Scenario: If I get an extra 100km out of a tank of gas, using ethanol free fuel, that roughly translates into about 8L of fuel (considering the Honda Civic's average fuel consumption of 8L/100km).

44 litre tank X $1.35 (regular) = $59.40
44 litre tank X $1.50 (prem) = $66.00
Difference = $6.60 extra for premium

Now, if I saved 8 litres of fuel using premium grade, that translates into $12.00.

Therefore, you actually save $5.40 using premium ethanol free gas.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:28 PM   #2
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Don't all gas stations besides Shell have up to 10% for 89?
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:01 AM   #3
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You're probably right, but your calculation is all based on you getting an additional 100km out of the tank when you run ethanol free gas...

What if you happened to drive more on the highway that particular week you had ethanol free gas? What if it was warmer that week and the increase in fuel economy could be attributed to the rise in temperature?

IMO, you'll need to run six tanks of fuel through your Civic to prove this; three tanks of Shell/Husky ethanol-free 91 octane, and three tanks of Esso/Petro Canada ethanol-added 91 octane, alternating between ethanol and ethanol free.

**** explaining this any farther, I'm going to sleep.
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:49 AM   #4
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It looks like Shell & Husky 91 have ethanol free gas.
Where did you get that information? Ethanol content is mandated by the provincial government.

In Ontario and BC minimum minimum ethanol content is 5%, in Saskatchewan it's 7.5% and in Manitoba it's 8.5%.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:01 AM   #5
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Where did you get that information? Ethanol content is mandated by the provincial government.

In Ontario and BC minimum minimum ethanol content is 5%, in Saskatchewan it's 7.5% and in Manitoba it's 8.5%.
Go to Husky or shell. They sell ethanol free gas. Says right on the pumps.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:39 AM   #6
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I used to fill up with shell 91 gas only until recently. I get better mileage with petro.
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I used to fill up with shell 91 gas only until recently. I get better mileage with petro.
How much better? DO you keep a log?
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:48 PM   #8
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LOL @ worrying about $5 in fuel savings
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:59 PM   #9
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LOL @ worrying about $5 in fuel savings
Ummm you need to think about the bigger picture. $5 x 52 weeks x number of years.
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Old 04-19-2011, 04:28 PM   #10
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LOL @ worrying about $5 in fuel savings
...Especially when you drive a Civic.
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Ummm you need to think about the bigger picture. $5 x 52 weeks x number of years.
You know I'm a car enthusiast and there are many others on here that are as well. I drive/build/work on cars because they're fun and it's my hobby. I just recently upgraded my turbochargers on my S4 to hopefully in the next little while be making somewhere in the range of 600bhp... I did that because I enjoy driving my car, I enjoy the power. Upgrading a car (which is already a depreciating value no matter what) is the one way you take something that someone else has and make it your own. To enjoy the power you need fuel, to feed the tank you need money. You cannot be serious if you're worried about the little extra you're paying now is really going to effect you at the end of the year is it?

If you're concerned about $5/tank of fuel then you're obviously on the wrong track here. Either it's the wrong car, or the wrong job or the wrong hobby.

If the $5 or even $10 extra in gas is going to hurt you that much then there obviously needs to be a change somewhere and I'll tell you the answer is not in using 87 octane for looking for non ethanol gas.
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Go to Husky or shell. They sell ethanol free gas. Says right on the pumps.
http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/20...rs189-eng.html

Ctrl-F to "Legislated Provincial Renewable Fuel Mandates for Gasoline "
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:17 PM   #13
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LOL @ worrying about $5 in fuel savings
Thats 4 morning coffees before work.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:19 PM   #14
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If the $5 or even $10 extra in gas is going to hurt you that much then there obviously needs to be a change somewhere and I'll tell you the answer is not in using 87 octane for looking for non ethanol gas.
Every penny counts.. I wish I could save money on everything I buy like insurance and food.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:28 PM   #15
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Every penny counts.. I wish I could save money on everything I buy like insurance and food.
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it sucks that each week a tank of gas is going up by $5.i put $50 in today and got a half tank.
makes me wonder why none of the politicians base their campaign on reducing fuel costs.i'm sure it would sway alot of voters.and after they win they can just do an about face and raise fuel taxes.isn't that what they do,feed us lies and baffle us with bullshit.
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