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View Poll Results: What is the answer?

2


26 
47.27% 
288


29 
52.73% 


04092011, 08:38 PM

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When it's written as 2(9+3), it's already implied that the 2 belongs to (9+3). Anyone in engineering knows that the answer is 2.
The answer would be 288 if it were written as 48(9+3)÷2 =
Quote:
Originally Posted by e36_freak
I calculated this and got 288
i googled the equation and google's calculator comes up with this
(48 ÷ 2) * (9 + 3) = 288
I also tried it on WolframAlpha.com (WolframAlpha is more than a search engine. It gives you access to the world's facts and data and calculates answers across a range of topics) and got to the same result
Input:
48\2(9+3)
Result:
288
EDIT*
for those getting 2. why do you multiply before dividing? i always thought you solve the numbers in bracket first and once that is done you either multiply or divide, whichever comes first. Multiply doesn't take precedence over divide...

type this into wolfram alpha: a/b(c+d)
What do you get?



04092011, 08:47 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sirex
lol
48
(12)
2
maybe a better way of looking at it is like that.

Correct. In order for it to be 2, it would have to be written as 48/(2*(9+3)). As is, it can be written as 48*(1/2)*(9+3) and NOT 48*1/(2*(9+3))
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04092011, 08:47 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOSO
When it's written as 2(9+3), it's already implied that the 2 belongs to (9+3).

The only thing that is implied by 2(9+3) is that there is a multiplication sign between the 2 and the opening bracket.



04092011, 09:10 PM

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48/2(9+3) = (48/2)(9+3) = 288
48/2(9+3) = 48/(2(9+3)) = 2
Live happy knowing that both are right, and that this question is too vague.
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04092011, 09:14 PM

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if brackets aren't inserted into the equation, you cant automaically assume that they are there, or that they belong there.
If you use any calculator with algebraic execution of functions, your answer will be 288.



04092011, 09:44 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sirex
if brackets aren't inserted into the equation, you cant automaically assume that they are there, or that they belong there.
If you use any calculator with algebraic execution of functions, your answer will be 288.

My Ti83+ says 288.
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04092011, 11:27 PM

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This is the obvious answer:



04092011, 11:43 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Axxe
My Ti83+ says 288.

want to make out? My TI34 II says 288 as well.



04102011, 01:59 AM

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your calculators are incorrect, because you're inputting the equation wrong.
seriously. with fractions, if there are any manipulations, you must do to the bottom what you do to the top. if you got 288 you are wrong since you're dividing the numerator (ONLY!) by 2 = 24.
fine, but given that you must also divide the denominator by 2 as well which those who are getting 288 aren't doing.
soooo, given what i said you should correctly have (48/2) / {[2(9+3)]/2} = 24/12 = 2.
as soon as the division sign is present, its a fraction. therefore....
48
(DIVISIONSIGN)
2(9+3) <clearly you can just do the math 2(12)
48
(DIVISIONSIGN)
24
= 2
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04102011, 02:20 AM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gato Liso
your calculators are incorrect, because you're inputting the equation wrong.
seriously. with fractions, if there are any manipulations, you must do to the bottom what you do to the top. if you got 288 you are wrong since you're dividing the numerator (ONLY!) by 2 = 24.
fine, but given that you must also divide the denominator by 2 as well which those who are getting 288 aren't doing.
soooo, given what i said you should correctly have (48/2) / {[2(9+3)]/2} = 24/12 = 2.
as soon as the division sign is present, its a fraction. therefore....
48
(DIVISIONSIGN)
2(9+3) <clearly you can just do the math 2(12)
48
(DIVISIONSIGN)
24
= 2

solve this then
42/2*10



04102011, 02:21 AM

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210
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04102011, 03:00 AM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gato Liso
210

in the post above you said
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gato Liso
as soon as the division sign is present, its a fraction. therefore....

So why the double standard?



04102011, 10:12 AM

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maybe a better way of looking at it for your el gatso, and a way that might make more sense is in a more complicated way.
48 / 2x
where x = 12
48/2x = 24x
You would still divide by 2 first to simplify.
24(12) = 288.
after you've simplified, then you can multiple the x.
Last edited by sirex; 04102011 at 10:15 AM.



04102011, 10:13 AM

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i knew you were going to say that captain obvious. i will explain....
there is a lack of brackets in that equation. there is not double standard at all.
BEDMAS says Division first, so 42/2=21, the Multiply next, 21*10 =210
if it were 42/2(10) then i would have treated the equation like a fraction...do brackets first then divide. 42/20 = 2.1
multipication and division roll together. addition and subtraction roll together.
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Last edited by El Gato Liso; 04102011 at 10:38 AM.



04102011, 10:19 AM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sirex
maybe a better way of looking at it for your el gatso, and a way that might make more sense is in a more complicated way.
48 / 2x
where x = 12
48/2x = 24x
You would still divide by 2 first to simplify.
24(12) = 288.

nahhh brooo..
if you're going to simplifiy 48/2x, then you would have 24/x. you cant just get rid of the "/" you know.
heres the expanded form of wat you used as an example.
48.......48........1
 =  x 
2x........2........x
if X is 12...
48.......48.......1............48
 =  x  = ......... = 2.
2x........2.......12...........24
multiplying fractions? numerator x numerator. denominator x denominator.
the answer IS 2.
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Last edited by El Gato Liso; 04102011 at 10:31 AM.



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