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Old 10-23-2008, 01:29 PM   #1
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Autoshifter - not intuitive!

I test drove a 128 the other day, and only available in auto so drove teh biatch..

found the semi-auto shifter really counter intuitive, up-shift is pullback or something counter to other brands i.e. drove a lex is250 teh other day and upshift is push forward as it should be.

was brute! anybody else find this annoying?
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:43 PM   #2
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Up-shift pull back is more intuitive; you are being pushed in the seat, and pull back to upshift, and then when you brake, you push forward to downshift. Makes perfect sense.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:50 PM   #3
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Up-shift pull back is more intuitive; you are being pushed in the seat, and pull back to upshift, and then when you brake, you push forward to downshift. Makes perfect sense.
This is how most rally cars are, and its the way it should be!
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:51 AM   #4
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It's the way like all race cars are, and makes a lot of sense.

The early Steptronic cars (99-01 or so) had it the other way around, and it sucked.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:03 AM   #5
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I haven't driven with the push forward, but we have the pull back to upshift in the X5, and it feels pretty natural to me.
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:42 PM   #6
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Upshift is pull back. Perfectly natural. It has always been that way with the SMG, and thereafter the Steptronics followed suit (a bit later).

EDIT: If you search most of the respective enthusiast forums, you'll probably find a DIY to modify it for PULL BACK next gear and PUSH FORWARD previous gear. It just makes more sense that way when you're snug in your seat...
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:55 PM   #7
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yeah the 328 is pull up shift.
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:47 PM   #8
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actually, the other way is more intuitive.
Push up for upshift, pull down for downshift - makes perfect sense that way.
Its like the throttle on an airplane, push forward = increase speed.
Or the landing gear, lever down = gear down.
On a motorcycle = pull up to shift up
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:39 AM   #9
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actually, the other way is more intuitive.
Push up for upshift, pull down for downshift - makes perfect sense that way.
Its like the throttle on an airplane, push forward = increase speed.
Or the landing gear, lever down = gear down.
On a motorcycle = pull up to shift up
Depends on the airplane. Some are pull for more throttle.
And motorcycle you pull up towards to you upshift and down away from you to down shift. If you follow the linkage its actually pulling the gear back to upshift.
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Old 02-12-2009, 05:35 PM   #10
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Up-shift pull back is more intuitive; you are being pushed in the seat, and pull back to upshift, and then when you brake, you push forward to downshift. Makes perfect sense.
Makes sense to me.
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:50 AM   #11
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In either event, BMW is clearly going against the grain on this one.

VW Golf
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Cadillac SRX
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Chrysler 300C (push AWAY upshift)
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Mercedes CLS55 AMG (push AWAY upshift)
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Infiniti G35
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Lexus ISF
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Mitsubishi Outlander
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Porsche Cayenne
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Hyundai Genesis
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And BMW X5
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:07 AM   #12
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Why are you bitching about this so much? Who cares, really? The auto shifter remains in the auto mode 99.99999% of the time anyway, the novelty of changing your own gears in an auto wears thin very quickly.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:18 PM   #13
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Why are you bitching about this so much? Who cares, really? The auto shifter remains in the auto mode 99.99999% of the time anyway, the novelty of changing your own gears in an auto wears thin very quickly.
Whats your problem? The thread title clearly states the issue being discussed and the issue to be bitched about.

And to answer your question of who cares; YOU. You obviously care about the issue enough to have posted your opinion already, althrough you dont have a 1 series with an automatic, and then come back, read the responses, and contribute a post with a made up statistic and which has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:44 AM   #14
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Whats your problem? The thread title clearly states the issue being discussed and the issue to be bitched about.

And to answer your question of who cares; YOU. You obviously care about the issue enough to have posted your opinion already, althrough you dont have a 1 series with an automatic, and then come back, read the responses, and contribute a post with a made up statistic and which has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Made up statistics are the best kind.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:30 PM   #15
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Yah it's so retarded. German cars just want to be different.
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