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Old 03-29-2011, 09:25 AM   #16
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Yikes. Yeah this is why I always use jack stands AND the jack as a backup AND ramps as a last resort. I won't use a creeper for the exact reason described, convenience is far outweighed by a car on your chest (pun not intended). I also use extreme caution when applying a significant amount of torque... you just never know.

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Old 03-29-2011, 09:35 AM   #17
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SIR good point, I use hardwood blocks, spared from the fireplace. They are extremely tough. One good thing about wood is that the car will press itself into the wood a tiny bit, and wood is very slip resistant. Just make sure it's a nice square chunk as you don't want it tipping.

B6T also made a good point with the removed rims/tires. I have a few winter wheels I put under the back of the car when I was removing the rear subframe. I used hardwood all along the sides of the car.

Creepers: I don't use one, I find them annoying. I think they may be awesome in a nice garage with a smooth floor but not in the driveway. Princess auto sells these thin foam mats that are waterproof you can lay on that, and you can slide under the car easier as well.

If you have any doubts about your setup before you get under give the car a bit of a wiggle as you watch all your jacks/stands/wood, etc. If you notice anything that may suggest it could tip, remove that piece and reposition it.

If you need to use muscle on a bolt, then you can try positioning the wrench in an upward position (so you are lifting the car) and not in a position where you are rocking the car left/right, front/back. Also you can tap the wrench with a mallet, this concentrates the force applied to the wrench and it won't affect the car as much as trying to muscle it off.

To work on a car on the ground ideally you want 2 rolling floor jacks, 2 wheel blocks, 2 jack stands and some hardwood blocks.

I always look around under the car and think what would happen if the jack failed, you need to think this, and think of your head getting crushed because that's what will happen. Always use a backup support.

That being said... I can't wait for nice weather so I can get under my car.

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Old 03-29-2011, 10:06 AM   #18
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Damn. As a father, I can't imagine the unbearable pain at losing a child, moreover being the one to find them in that state. My heart goes out to the family.
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:19 PM   #19
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It sucks that it would happen to this well educated family in particular...I hope they work their way through the tragedy.

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Old 03-30-2011, 01:59 AM   #20
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Really sad to hear this kind of tragedy. I always use a jack stand and a jack to support it also because I don't even trust the jack stand alone. That's me. I will teach my son to do the same thing. Very sad to hear this.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:13 AM   #21
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this is an epidemic! just heard on the radio, that some guy in scarboro got crushed working under his civic.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:14 AM   #22
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My cousin passed away like that 2 years ago. He jacked up the vehicle and didn't properly secure it with a jack stand........he was alone at the time. The jack stand gave way and crushed him. He was only 24.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:03 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by E36is View Post
this is an epidemic! just heard on the radio, that some guy in scarboro got crushed working under his civic.
I heard about that today too.

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:20 PM   #24
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I have ratchet-style jackstands but I'll admit that I don't typically use the additional security pins on them. One thing for sure is I'll be using them from now on.
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:22 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by InfiniteDice View Post

When introducing young guys to cars please tell them to jackstand under a solid area.

When I'm under there, I jack a bit higher than I need it, slide the jackstand under a hard point. Then I let a bit (not all) of the weight onto the stand so it shares the load with the jack. Make sure the release handle is down in the proper locked position.

This is traumatic for the family that's for sure.
Good point. I do this also plus I put wheel stops, put tranny in gear and apply hand brake. She's not going anywhere.

Also I keep a hard board that I place underneath the stands/jack. Just in case I get a flat and pulled over on soft shoulder
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