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03-15-2011, 11:44 PM
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3rd Gear Member
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Location: mississauga
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Car: 320i
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new clutch problem!
Hey guys, I did a 6 speed swap over the weekend, i got a new clutch and everything, but now my clutch isnt disengaging, the clutch pedal feels like nothing for the first half, then feels solid for the second half. The car will not shift out of neutral while on, and if i start in gear with the clutch depressed the car rolls forward, so obviously its not releasing in any condition. I have tried a different slave cylinder already as that was my first guess, but I dont really know what to do now, im trying to figure out any other possibilities before I pull the tranny again. Does anyone have any ideas?
thanks guys.
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03-16-2011, 12:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Milton
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Sounds like you missed something...Maybe not compatible parts, the 5 and 6 spd dont use all same clutch, or maybe the bearing (did you forget to put it back in!) lol
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03-16-2011, 12:21 AM
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I used all 6 speed clutch parts, new release bearing, new pilot bearing. put the release bearing in before i put the tranny in, clutch fork was also clipped in. Only thing i can think of is somethign moved around while we were sliding the tranny in. I guess the only thing to do is pull it all off.
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03-16-2011, 12:26 AM
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6 spd flywheel?? If they are not the same thickness, that might be it..
If not, gotta pull it all out! Been there, done that...NOT fun!
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03-16-2011, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Hamilton
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Done that too. At least on E46 The starter bolts don't have nuts on them that are impossible to reach (I'm assuming they are all like that but I've only actually pulled a tranny on an '01 323Ci).
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03-16-2011, 12:37 AM
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3rd Gear Member
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Location: mississauga
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Car: 320i
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i used the 6 speed flywheel that the tranny was attached to when i got it.
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03-16-2011, 09:35 AM
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Clutch disc is installed backwards........
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03-16-2011, 09:26 PM
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3rd Gear Member
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Location: mississauga
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ok i pulled the transmission today, reassembled everything, which already looked correct, and then put it all back together, same problem, now all i can see being wrong is the pressure plate is broken, even though it came out of a running car.
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03-16-2011, 10:34 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Are you completely 100% sure you got all the air out of the clutch line when you bled it?
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03-16-2011, 10:36 PM
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3rd Gear Member
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im going to bleed it again tommorow, but when i took the slave out i didnt disconnect it, i just tied it up. however i did change the slave yesterday to see if that helped, but it felt the same after i changed to the new one and bled it. maybe i still have some air in the lines, but usually when theres air the pedal is just very squishy, right now the pedal feels like nothing until the bottom when it gets solid.
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03-16-2011, 11:46 PM
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does anyone have an old pressure plate i can use to test out if thats the problem?
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03-18-2011, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Guelph, Ont.
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Car: '04 330CI 6-speed
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There's nothing on the pressure plate that can really go wrong unless the damage is obvious (bent/broken fingers). I'm with MANDD on this one, sounds like the clutch disc is in backwards.
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03-18-2011, 10:21 AM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: mississauga
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Car: 320i
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well i ordered a new clutch kit from marranello yesterday, Im about to go pick it up, hopefully that solves everything, also i installed the clutch disk with the geirtrabe or whatever side facing the gearbox. I inspected the pressure plate and it seems like one the arms that hold the springs in is bent inwards and is almost bottomed out. I suspect thats my problem.
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03-18-2011, 10:35 AM
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bowmanville On Canada
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Car: 95 325i 4 door
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make sure the clutch fork isnt worn or bent
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03-18-2011, 11:14 AM
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3rd Gear Member
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Location: mississauga
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Car: 320i
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i checked how can i check if its worn, i know its not bent though. i also have no idea how a clutch fork would bend but I hear of it happening.
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