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Old 06-16-2010, 12:42 PM   #31
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Rich, what mike is trying to say is that it would make more sense for him to get smaller/lighter wheels. Which is better for handling and performance.

Instead the OP is putting on heavy 17'' wheels, with heavy rotors and rotational mass for his poor 318 to turn.

A more sensible solution would have been to get some light 15s or 16s, and upgrade the pads and rotors. Try to reduce the weight a little, and he'd have a better track car than a 318 with 17s and m3 brakes.

Also people have different priories, he prefers to drive around with a red front bumper and have m3 brakes. Where as some would prefer to have a well maintained and clean car before doing upgrades, to each their own. I'm sure he is doing the best he could with what he has.

Me personally wouldn't have dumped money into m3 bumpers, m3 brakes, m3 suspension, m3 vadars, m3 this, m3 that.

Add it all up and your better off buying an m3, hell that rebuilt one sold for $7 i think not to long ago.
and I herd that the white 4 door that was squished went for under $3000, wish I coulda grabbed it, and swapped the driveline and suspesion into my car!!

Sounds like he's grabbing stuff as it comes up at a decent price, will be intersting to see how his car turns out after sometime

Trev how's the car doing now that the coil overs are settling?
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:50 PM   #32
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And if the op is looking for some trackable rims he shoul grab those 16 bbs's that are for sale for 550 for 5 of them. One of the few 16's that will clear m3 brakes.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:58 PM   #33
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Close in weight, not in performance. Why do you need such good stoppers with such poor engine performance? stock 318 brakes do the job easily.

to each there own.
Such ricer mentality.

300whp civics on stock drums. you haz one, right???
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:16 PM   #34
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Such ricer mentality.

300whp civics on stock drums. you haz one, right???
ROFL. Bout time we found common ground. lol
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:42 PM   #35
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Such ricer mentality.

300whp civics on stock drums. you haz one, right???
One? Try 3, plus a prelude. Along with the 20 something other cars in my name.

I also have a c230, 528, shitrover, a legacy that just blew up on me, matrix, dodge p/up, two trailers, and a bunch of scrap/parts cars.

So im pretty close to the 30 mark all said and done.


What was that you were saying about ricer?
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:46 PM   #36
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^^if i were to track a 318 i'd probably do M3 brakes in front.
Im not a bmw pro, but I would assume that m3 brakes on front ONLY would cause huge nose dive.
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:59 PM   #37
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Im not a bmw pro, but I would assume that m3 brakes on front ONLY would cause huge nose dive.
I'd say it's fixed weight I anything as in it doesn't add transitional weight when brakes are applied. Bigger brakes allow for a softer squeaze of the pedal because of a greater amount of friction between the larger pads and rotors which lowers the amount of "dive" Brakes should never be punched or hit, it's a squeeze to scrub off speed and keep the car balanced before entering the start of a corner.
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One? Try 3, plus a prelude. Along with the 20 something other cars in my name.

I also have a c230, 528, shitrover, a legacy that just blew up on me, matrix, dodge p/up, two trailers, and a bunch of scrap/parts cars.

So im pretty close to the 30 mark all said and done.


What was that you were saying about ricer?
Apparently, reading also ownz you. I didn't say you are a ricer, just that you seem to have the mentality of most.

You approach towards the whole conversation was incorrect. You started attacking someone and their efforts and then arguing your point as being the most correct, where there is several different approaches towards the same end result.

OP has scored a good deal on M3 breaks, let him put them on and be happy. Perhaps he is slowly getting his car ready for an engine swap? Perhaps he wants better breaking (as richie mentioned), etc.

btw, nice to stoop low, yet again and take a stab at Rovers...
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Apparently, reading also ownz you. I didn't say you are a ricer, just that you seem to have the mentality of most.

You approach towards the whole conversation was incorrect. You started attacking someone and their efforts and then arguing your point as being the most correct, where there is several different approaches towards the same end result.

OP has scored a good deal on M3 breaks, let him put them on and be happy. Perhaps he is slowly getting his car ready for an engine swap? Perhaps he wants better breaking (as richie mentioned), etc.

btw, nice to stoop low, yet again and take a stab at Rovers...
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Apparently, reading also ownz you. I didn't say you are a ricer, just that you seem to have the mentality of most.

You approach towards the whole conversation was incorrect. You started attacking someone and their efforts and then arguing your point as being the most correct, where there is several different approaches towards the same end result.

OP has scored a good deal on M3 breaks, let him put them on and be happy. Perhaps he is slowly getting his car ready for an engine swap? Perhaps he wants better breaking (as richie mentioned), etc.

btw, nice to stoop low, yet again and take a stab at Rovers...

Speaking of reading problems, in my first or second post I clearly stated "to each there own". The op made a post and I stated my opinion on it.

I can take a stab at rovers since I own one.
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Hey look it's the hall monitor, better go tell a mod that some one said a bad word on the Internet.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:36 AM   #42
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What a shitstorm!!!!

Lets try this again. Brake swap was frustrating, parts are not new, so its always more finicky.

Brakes were super cheap, you would be shocked at what I spent.

I weighed them out, they are not much heavier then the stock brakes, just seemed like they were

I am NOT going to track on style 5s. duuuuu, wrong tires, wrong offset, im not crazy.

I didn't paint the bumper because I am probably going to paint the whole car, and to top it off a different colour, soo... To me its a tad wasteful to dump cash to spray a bumper, only to spray it again a year later.... To each their own.

Engine swap might be coming, m42 might be built way beyond expectations, not sure, we ll see when i have the $ to decide. Truth be told, if i do an engine swap I am going to do something nutty or nothing at all.

I hope i have answered all the internetz questions to satisfaction, even though its really not anyone's business, considering that this thread is about the frustrations with swapping parts with other used parts.

Now as for the brakes: I need to buy new spindles, bearings and everything will be right as rain, thats all thats left over. Pelican is out of stock and so is bimmerspecialist, so I wait.

Before I do the rear, I am going to replace the bearings too, handbrake cables, handbrake pads , bushings prior to installing. I have not yet looked at the brake master cylinder, I hope its a direct swap. We shall see,.

Overall the experience is worth it, the braking force from just the fronts alone is a nutty difference compared to stock. I would do it all over again if i had to.

To anyone attempting this, it is a massive pain and its not just slap on be happy, as you will probably notice balljoints, tierods, maybe even shocks that require attention.

will report on the rear, once I do it. I guess this will be a good time to swap in a LSD too, if i am to rip the rear apart haha.

DYI ftw. That is all.
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Also give me some credit, I do all of this on my driveway, I don't have the luxury of a hoist, which makes the jobs a lot less tedious.

For a driveway mechanic, I think I do pretty well. My car has never been to the shop, period, and to be honest even the head gasket will be done on the driveway, when the time comes. That says a lot more about the kind of enthusiast someone is. Last I checked, I have zero mechanical issues... its not magic its proper maintenance, and to me that constitutes a "clean car".

I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a shop. Also before someone says ohhhhhh then don t have a bmw.... Supporting Vendors, pelican parts and bimmer specialist. Check them out, you ll be quite shocked at how inexpensive it is to properly maintain a bmw, a lot cheaper than many domestics. Even if I had a domestic, I would still work on it myself. Why should I pay someone to do something I possess the skills to do without much issue other then taking more time as I struggle on a tarmac driveway?


I cannot believe I am getting flamed for upgrading brakes, come on people! Stop BEFORE Go.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:09 AM   #44
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Also give me some credit, I do all of this on my driveway, I don't have the luxury of a hoist, which makes the jobs a lot less tedious.

For a driveway mechanic, I think I do pretty well. My car has never been to the shop, period, and to be honest even the head gasket will be done on the driveway, when the time comes. That says a lot more about the kind of enthusiast someone is. Last I checked, I have zero mechanical issues... its not magic its proper maintenance, and to me that constitutes a "clean car".

I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a shop. Also before someone says ohhhhhh then don t have a bmw.... Supporting Vendors, pelican parts and bimmer specialist. Check them out, you ll be quite shocked at how inexpensive it is to properly maintain a bmw, a lot cheaper than many domestics. Even if I had a domestic, I would still work on it myself. Why should I pay someone to do something I possess the skills to do without much issue other then taking more time as I struggle on a tarmac driveway?


I cannot believe I am getting flamed for upgrading brakes, come on people! Stop BEFORE Go.
LOL haters gonna hate. Keep doing your thing.
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Also give me some credit, I do all of this on my driveway, I don't have the luxury of a hoist, which makes the jobs a lot less tedious.

For a driveway mechanic, I think I do pretty well. My car has never been to the shop, period, and to be honest even the head gasket will be done on the driveway, when the time comes. That says a lot more about the kind of enthusiast someone is. Last I checked, I have zero mechanical issues... its not magic its proper maintenance, and to me that constitutes a "clean car".

I don't have the luxury of being able to afford a shop. Also before someone says ohhhhhh then don t have a bmw.... Supporting Vendors, pelican parts and bimmer specialist. Check them out, you ll be quite shocked at how inexpensive it is to properly maintain a bmw, a lot cheaper than many domestics. Even if I had a domestic, I would still work on it myself. Why should I pay someone to do something I possess the skills to do without much issue other then taking more time as I struggle on a tarmac driveway?


I cannot believe I am getting flamed for upgrading brakes, come on people! Stop BEFORE Go.
Well put man... unfortunately there will be many haters as a lot of people can't even change their own air filter let alone do a brake swap! I know the frustrations of using used parts and working in a driveway rolling around on your back! Hell I just did it the other day to relocate an 02 sensor.

Keep up the good work and don't let the haters bring you down. e36's are amazingly easy to work on and amazingly cheap to maintain and upgrade if you have half a brain... some people just can't be bothered and rather spend out of their pocket.

Keep us up to date with your project!
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