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Old 06-05-2010, 11:10 AM   #1
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time for some new tires, input please!!

OK so I am looking into a new set of tires for my E36

here is a rundown of what i am taking into consideration

-summer performance tires
-I drive 1000km a week to and from work, and they will also be on for a trip to miami in august, 5 autocrosses, multiple cruises and a few track events
-! will probley burn these off between july and november
-must be decent in the wet!

so I've kinda narrowed it down to 3 tires I am looking at (not the biggest selection in the 225/50r16 as I would like to see)

1)Fuzion ZR1

2) BF Goodrich s-force T/A KDW

and possibley but worried about making it to November with them
3) Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 star spec

So since I will need 5 months and put about 40000km on the tires I run, would like to here some opions and reveiws on these selections
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:15 AM   #2
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The only tire listed that has a chance of hitting that mileage with your driving is the KDW. It has its downsides though, mainly noise.

Don't let John know you're considering the ZRi, I think he wanted to burn my car down when he saw it came with a fresh set.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:39 AM   #3
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They are KDWs not the KDW2s. The 2s have the radical looking tread that I can be see being noisey, they look more like a off road tire and the tread doesn't look good for the wet

I had the ZR1s on the 17's on the e30, and was happy with them

Jay do you know any well priced BF dealers you would recomend??
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:42 PM   #4
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Oh. The original KDW isn't that great compared to newer designs. I wouldn't recommend it.

In that size I like: Kumho SPT, Fuzion ZRi, BFG G-Force Sport, Continental DW, Bridgestone RE760...the list goes on. There's dozens of great choices.

BFG Canadian dealer pricing is stupid. Use Tirerack.
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:11 PM   #5
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Hi, I just took off my bf g-force sports after 12000 kms. Same size that you are talking about - 225/50/16.

Vibration started at 80km/h & got worse with more speed. Balanced multiple times. Had them roadforced balance before putting them back on this spring by another shop. They recommended replacing atleast two of the tires. I got the original shop to replace one. The replacement tire was too bad to roadforce.

Just this past Thursday I finally got switched to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (I know, not summer only) and they are beautiful. My car feels like a bimmer again.

Other note: the wet & dry traction of g-force sports not as good as I expected from a summer only tire.
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Old 06-07-2010, 01:05 PM   #6
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Jay.

Will ET18 offset fit an E36. Rims are 16x7.5
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:34 AM   #7
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I know this wasn't one of your listed choices, but I recently put on a new set of Sumitomo ZIIIs and I love them. I put on 51,000km last yr (pretty typical), so I too was looking for an excellent summer radial and needed one that would take the milage and stress I put on them. So far, loving them and from what I've heard and read from other folks drivin them; they're just as happy!!!
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:49 AM   #8
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I know this wasn't one of your listed choices, but I recently put on a new set of Sumitomo ZIIIs and I love them. I put on 51,000km last yr (pretty typical), so I too was looking for an excellent summer radial and needed one that would take the milage and stress I put on them. So far, loving them and from what I've heard and read from other folks drivin them; they're just as happy!!!
google search provides good feed back for street driving, but poor feed back for autocross and track...

I'm leaning to the fuzions ZR1 or Dunlop Direzza DZ101
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I have a feeling the starspecs won't make it to 40000km. They have a treadwear rating of 200AA IIRC.

To put that in perspective, I had a set of Kumho Ecsta XS with a rating of 180AA on before (granted they were 205/50R15s) and they were done after 10 AutoXs and 6 lapping days (total of about ~2000km)

My dad has a set of the starspecs on his G37 and after 3 lapping days, they're about half done.

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Old 06-08-2010, 02:40 PM   #10
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I hear you on the kumo's. Have the same size on now and given they had about 75% left on them 3 months ago 3 autocross and one DDT school at mosport along with my 1000km a week they are caputs.

The nice thing with the fuzions and Dunlops are the price, so if I have to replace a pair it's not too bad.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:09 PM   #11
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For the price (~$80) i payed for mine, the ZRis lasted an incredibly long time (around 60-70k) went through almost 2 years of auto-x and 3 trillium track events, and the grip honestly wasnt that bad (atleast on the track), BUT after putting the sport cups on the front and riding in cars with re-11s, starspecs etc, the difference is grip is night and day. the Fusions understeer A TON, especially on the auto-x, I just didn't realize till I tried other tires.

I've heard good things about the starspecs' treadlife (its why i've got a set on order right now), and I would recommend them, but stay away from the fusions.
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Old 06-08-2010, 06:54 PM   #12
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The starspecs are also known to have amazing grip - I've heard they're comparable to a Toyo R888

I have a set of 255/40R17s on the car now with one autoX under their belts, and i can definitely say that the grip is phenomenal. I can't say anything yet about the wear though.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:43 PM   #13
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Heavily leaning to the dulops but not the star specs just the 101's

with the milage I do at 130 comapired to 81 a tire it's gonna make difference.

480 shipped from tirerack just wonder about duties. Figure 80 for mount and balance

Wi be test fitting the rims, the et18 backspacing may need some rolling but will see. Should know how they fit by Sunday.
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:35 PM   #14
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be careful with tire rack. Their prices are amazing, but they ship with UPS. When I ordered my rims from them 3 years ago, they were at my door from tire rack within 1.5 weeks; 2 months later UPS sent me a bill for $250...

I hate UPS...across borders that is
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Tirerack calculates all the shipping, duty, and brokerage and tax for you when you put in your postal code. You shouldn't have to pay any additional costs that weren't disclosed in advance - even from UPS.
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