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Old 06-03-2010, 05:13 PM   #1
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Kijiji Find: Imola ZHP

I have no affiliation with the seller. I found this on Kijiji Hamilton and thought I'd give a heads up here, 'cause I don't know if a lot of people search the Hamilton section - there's usually not much in there.

I seriously wanted to buy it, but I already have 4 vehicles and don't need to spend that much on another right now. But it would be great to see it go to an enthusiast - Imola ZHPs are not easy to find, esp. with a 6spd. Not locally, anyway. Car looks clean but I didn't bother going to check it out even though the guy lives like 2 mins away. Somebody buy this!
http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ205742002
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:29 PM   #2
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That's not a ZHP. That's an M Sport package. Also it's got the wrong wheels, those are from a 5 series and the offset is waaay off. If he doesn't have the proper 17" 68M wheels that really detracts from the car's value.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:59 PM   #3
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What makes you so sure? Maybe I need to do more research, but it seems to have all the elements of the "M performance" (ZHP) package minus the alcantara wheel, which I believe was replaced under warranty for the wheel this car now has. AFAIK Imola red was only available (non-M3) with that package. I'm definitely not saying I know all this for certain, but I'm pretty sure, so if you can prove me wrong, please do. I know the wheels are wrong, but I wouldn't pass on the car because the PO had bad taste. It would be pretty easy to get rid of those for the correct ones, or whatever else you might want.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:27 PM   #4
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The first picture is my own 330Ci M Performance package, which is usually called by it's US-option code ZHP. In Canada the option code for this was ZAM because Canadian versions didn't get the red needles or 6800 indicated redline (they do have the raised limiter though). Notice the exhaust tips indicating this has the M Performance exhaust. Then look at the seller's car and he has a regular 330 exhaust, this means it is an M Sport package, not M Performance package. Other clues would be the steering wheel, although as you mention it could have been warranty replaced, but for 2003s, the shift boot should also have been alcantara. That could be swapped to leather once you have a leather steering wheel installed, so the only way to tell for sure is the exhaust.
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:38 PM   #5
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Ok you win. I actually did some reading after challenging you earlier and found that out for myself. There seems to be a lot of confusion out about the Canadian models. Seems in the US the red needles are the dead giveaway - wonder why they decided not to do that here....

Either way, I still think it's a great car in an awesome colour
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:43 AM   #6
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I was considering taking a look at this car when I was looking for a replacement for my touring a month ago. It's apparently just around the corner.

However the kijiji ad caused me some concern for some reason. Then I realized why, I'd seen almost the same ad for another car with almost the same wording and crazy type bolding etc. Maybe just me being cynical but it turned me away.
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:09 AM   #7
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M badge on the rear is enough to turn me off
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ZHp is not too much of a big deal.... This is my problem with used market in last 2-3 years. What's up with all cars being put forsale that have been registered/plated not long ago? I see way too many bimmers with new plates and already put up for sale. I dont want to sound too picky, but when you are paying 15-20k for a car without warranty, it gives you some sort of message. Doesn't it?
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ZHp is not too much of a big deal.... This is my problem with used market in last 2-3 years. What's up with all cars being put forsale that have been registered/plated not long ago? I see way too many bimmers with new plates and already put up for sale. I dont want to sound too picky, but when you are paying 15-20k for a car without warranty, it gives you some sort of message. Doesn't it?
What the hell are you talking about? People get bored, have lifestyle changes, buy cars on impulse, it doesn't mean anything! One doesn't need to own a car for 20 years.
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That's not a ZHP. That's an M Sport package. Also it's got the wrong wheels, those are from a 5 series and the offset is waaay off. If he doesn't have the proper 17" 68M wheels that really detracts from the car's value.
So have you sold your 330Ci? I love your car but, I am in South Africa until the 1st August.
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:44 PM   #13
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M badge on the rear is enough to turn me off
This I don't get. It would take nothing to remove that. Same with the comment about the wheels. Change them.

Arsevader: whereabouts are you? I also live around the corner from the guy's supposed location, down in the North End....
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This I don't get. It would take nothing to remove that. Same with the comment about the wheels. Change them.

Arsevader: whereabouts are you? I also live around the corner from the guy's supposed location, down in the North End....
I'm Hess South.
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This I don't get. It would take nothing to remove that. Same with the comment about the wheels. Change them.

Arsevader: whereabouts are you? I also live around the corner from the guy's supposed location, down in the North End....
For the horrible ///M badge job, I assume he meant that type of thing speaks about what type of owner has that vehicle.

For the wheels, it's at least $3-4000 for the proper wheel and tire package in as new condition, or similar money for something aftermarket that's worth having on a 330-M. That drops the value for me by that amount, cause there's no way I could drive that vehicle with those wheels and offset. That also speaks volumes about the type of owner that is selling this vehicle. Not the ownership history that I'd want to buy.
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