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Old 04-08-2010, 12:00 PM   #1
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Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ on a crutch!!

Long post, but it kind of needs to be.

Have you ever felt really, truly stupid?

I have been plagued by codes and CELs since I bought the car, mostly 1175s and related. The oil, when changed, has smelled like gas to high heaven. I did the intake manifold and all associated gaskets, but still had issues, although fewer in number.

So, I decide to change the last gasket on my engine's top end: the secondary throttle body gasket.

So I buy the part, and go to install it last weekend. It doesn't fit. In fact, there's an O-ring acting as a seal. I can't figure things out, so I decide to check the boot from the MAF to the secondary throttle body and see if it goes there. No dice. But what do I see on the secondary throttle body? A groove for an O-ring, similar to the one between the two throttle bodies. No O-ring, but the groove is there.

So, I check a couple of websites and discover that in fact there is supposed to be a rubber ring there to seal the boot to the secondary throttle body. As well, there is supposed to be a ring to seal the MAF to the boot.

I have had that boot off a few times now. Since I bought the car there has never been a rubber ring in either spot. Never.

All of these issues, all of this time, all of this anger at the car, and it was a couple of rubber rings that should have been there, but weren't.

All I can say to this is Effing hell!
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:10 PM   #2
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it's not you fault man. previous owner/previous mechanic was a dipshit
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:12 PM   #3
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Well, yay to you for getting it fixed!!!
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:18 PM   #4
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Wow man. Glad you found it, I can understand why you'd be frustrated. So how does it run now?
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:52 PM   #5
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Look on the birght side at least now you know what the problem is
no more frustration!
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:02 PM   #6
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Kudos to you for finding out the issue. As for feeling stupid, check out my thread about having one of those nights...I tried replacing the wiper insert on a Bosch wiper with an OEM insert.

It happens...that's what I keep telling myself at least.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:05 PM   #7
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cliff notes: You fixed your car and for some reason that makes you angry.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:22 PM   #8
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good find. At least you must feel some sense of accomplishment after all, it's at least fixed.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:27 PM   #9
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This is why I'll be glad to finally buy an unmolested car one day. I too am getting sick of chasing/fixing the issues left behind by hack POs. I know the feeling of throwing money at a problem only to find it's something simple after much frustration. Congrats on the fix - at least you have some relief and can just enjoy the car now.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:30 PM   #10
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cliff notes: You fixed your car and for some reason that makes you angry.
lol!
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:36 PM   #11
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Not fixed yet -- parts are on order, and will be in tomorrow. Problem wil be solved (I hope) Saturday.

Still it will be reassuring to have one less source of unmetered air.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:48 PM   #12
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LOL "one less source".. now *that's* confidence!
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:08 PM   #13
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lol i'll keep my fingers crossed for you
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:51 AM   #14
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Uncross them for a little while -- the parts are on backorder. So, I wait a week or so.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:46 AM   #15
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ouch. Your avatar is odly perfect for the circumstance
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