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Old 04-12-2010, 05:16 PM   #16
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In the case of the elite groups of bimmers we should all have a small symbol of some sort on our cars
like a small symbol

In regards to the comment directed to me

your right we should help the small BMW shops as they are way more caring to our needs
but like I said let there merit be the decider to whom people use

cuz from the sound of it you are being defencive for no reason
I apologize if what I posted offended you
like I said I didn't mean to point fingers
I just saw a post involving you (bimmersport) which is why I needed to rant
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:21 PM   #17
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and if you really care about your community, then wouldn't you want to let people know about a shady shop? you still want to preserve that small business so they can keep ripping people off? so the next guy that wants to have his car serviced and turns to Max and reads only good things?

and what does having families to support have to do with better deals? Maranello Mike has a family to support so thats why hes giving us good deals?

LOL ok
Kev, if all I've had were good experiences, why would I say 'they' have a shady shop? I can tell you I've been to both bimmersport and RMP, and I've had only good experiences. I dont know why anyone thinks my opinion is biased or one sided. People have their preferences, but they're both good shops. that's all. Its unfortunate for those who've had bad experiences at either shop...
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:21 PM   #18
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I think as time moves on BMW's get cheaper and younger guys turn them into "ricers" At the end of the day if you can afford a used BMW, you'll get one. Just look at SOME of the $2000 or less ones. It's like civic nation all over again.

BTW, I'm not bash on any of the older models. I'm just saying take those are the ones usually transformed into %@$.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:27 PM   #19
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Your right
hence why people should be able to voice there experences good or bad
biased sure maybe a little you have a bimmersport ad as your sig

this website a lil
most of the mods are all about bimmersport
hence why there so protected

and again not to step on anyones toes
this website is a success because of it's members

When I had a miata I was part of a club/fourm
you couldn't just make a screen name but had to be approved to be a member
so the fake accounts were at a minimum
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:33 PM   #20
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Kev, if all I've had were good experiences, why would I say 'they' have a shady shop? I can tell you I've been to both bimmersport and RMP, and I've had only good experiences. I dont know why anyone thinks my opinion is biased or one sided. People have their preferences, but they're both good shops. that's all. Its unfortunate for those who've had bad experiences at either shop...
No no! i meant other people saying they are "shady".

I wasn't saying you need to specifically say that but I was saying how come people that HAVE had a bad experience cant post it without the post/thread being deleted? I for one didn't create a thread just because i knew it would either get deleted or locked.

threads get cleaned, threads get locked and that's it. I even brought this up to the Mods attention to please stop doing this. No one is calling you biased, but MaxBimmer as a whole. I am all for deleting the "immature" comments, but come on you cannot change the fact that the customer has had a bad experience.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:35 PM   #21
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:36 PM   #22
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I think as time moves on BMW's get cheaper and younger guys turn them into "ricers" At the end of the day if you can afford a used BMW, you'll get one. Just look at SOME of the $2000 or less ones. It's like civic nation all over again.

BTW, I'm not bash on any of the older models. I'm just saying take those are the ones usually transformed into %@$.
You hit the nail on the head. The reason why the BMW scene has become like the Honda scene is because the Honda guys are moving to BMW hehe.

The main reason why Bimmersport gets bashed the most is because they deal with a lot of customers. Most people don't post when they have a positive experience, it's human nature, bad news travels quick. That's why my brother was compelled to post something positive. I would encourage you to do the same with your shop(s). There's nothing wrong in helping someone succeed!?! Please note that there is no bias here, I happen to go to Bimmersport and I'm proud of it but I'm not the one making the money

No business is perfect and that's why I believe that your relationship with your mechanic is a two way road:

1) If you expect for your mechanic to provide you with excellent service, don't call him every minute to ask them if your car is done. Give them time to perfect their art.

2) If you expect for your mechanic to have the cheapest prices, don't question why they don't chat with you for a long time. As a matter of fact, they need that time to work on the high volume of cars that makes up for your cheap price.

3) If your mechanic's work is not to your liking, go back and tell them that you are not pleased and I'm sure that they will deal with it because they value you as a customer. If not, leave them.

This should apply to whatever shop that works for you. Believe me, all shops will make mistakes ... don't be surprised, I have yet to meet a perfect human being. I have a few stories of my dad's old mechanic messing up on our older Chevy Corsica and Ford Escort (minor things of course) and believe me, we still trusted him and he dealt with our complaints professionally because he knew that we are not willing to sell him out ... he trusted us and it would have personally hurt him if we just left him. You see, trust works both ways.

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Old 04-12-2010, 07:15 PM   #23
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But stating a bad experence is being professional
and the only threads that are cleaned and closed are the sponsers
people bash the dealer all day and no one says a word

hence why I said voice your experences not your opinion
let people discuess publicly the bad and good experences
and let the merit of the shop previal
I'm sorry you feel this way. You're absolutely right on posting a bad experience is professional, that's why we encourage everyone to post their experience, good or bad. It helps all the vendors see the work they're putting out, or to see where they can improve in certain areas. Negative comments can many times work for the best, however often times, its the posts made after the feedback that makes the thread go downhill FAST! It's unfortunate. We do not tolerate any business competition in a thread that is combative. This makes it stay professional and clean for the site, and for the vendors involved.

This is why i chose to close the thread you are refering to as it did not benefit any of the two parties involved, and the negative comment stays as it should. For the record, we do not "protect" any vendor or favor one from the other. They pay a premium to advertise here and they give you guys great deals in return, so we encourage you guys to always check them out! All are great and have a lot to offer you guys. We do however protect our site to be as professional, curtious and fun!

I'm sure that many members here have taken advantage of the great deals on service or parts from our vendors. Whether it is RMP, Bimmersport, Auto Evolution or Maranello BMW to name a few...every person will have their own personal preference and experience wherever they go, and we need to respect that, so lets enjoy ourselves and our bmw's!
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:19 PM   #24
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They get cleaned up because someone goes on a rant, goes overboard, gets overzealous with accusations, isn't reasonable...
And makes a thread about it.

I say, go to Bimmersport, get work done, if you have a bad experience, don't go back.
1% chance that would happen btw. I've been taking it there since I owned my car and yep, we had our problems. One of them being a HUGE issue. But Charlie took it like the man he is and solved it.

100% agree with the fact that noone waves to each other.........
Because there's a million of them. Noone cares. I'm fine with that. It's very understandable.
The only time you get a wave is e30/maybe e36/modded bmw's/forum members (personal experience)
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Old 04-12-2010, 07:34 PM   #25
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I've followed both this thread and the aforementioned thread and found them to be very interesting. I think if someone has a negative experience and posts about it, people should remain professional and shed some light or their opinions about the topic. After all, this is a forum. A place where we all come to voice our opinions and discuss, among other things, BMW related topics.


I can honestly say that I see absolutely nothing wrong Gemini323's message and what he has to say. I think we should all listen to what someone might have to say, provided they give reasons and such, in order to help form our opinions and views. I

I go to Bimmersport as well, however, there have been times where correspondence was lacking on their part. I'm sure they would take this as a suggestion to maybe hire a receptionist or someone who can handle customer inquiries. It is a very important part of a business and it could definitely cost you customers on a daily basis.

With that being said, I think there shouldn't be any censorship when discussing such topics. It would be counterproductive to the very reason this forum even exists. Bare in mind, however, there is a way to talk and then there's the way idiots decide to talk.

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Old 04-12-2010, 08:09 PM   #26
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See thats my point
People discussing there experiences in the open
No bashing No childish banter

Thats the kind of thing I want to see
The kind of thing that will help new users or even current ones

I hope in the future threads about peoples experiences they will not get locked
Cleaned up fine
but not locked or deleted

And let become more of a family
If people want to meet we should do it on better days then fri
I'm pretty sure we could meet up a different day of the week for wings and beer
or even coffee and donuts
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:40 PM   #27
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You wanna help members... then don't try and get rid of the max drama, that's what helps get a lot of us through tough days at work

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Just look at SOME of the $2000 or less ones. It's like civic nation all over again.

BTW, I'm not bash on any of the older models. I'm just saying take those are the ones usually transformed into %@$.
Honestly I think it's more the other way around. I've seen a lot more poorly modded e46's than I have e30's. The E36 guys are the worst though
edit: lol we're still safe...did a little google search... raced out BMW FTW



But in all honesty yeah, it's fun to joke around as friends and a community, but there are some people who just come on to call people names and start fires, we can do without those people.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:16 PM   #28
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When I joined this forum, I didn't have a BMW; I had a Ford Taurus. I tried to learn what I could without owning a BMW, and people were helpful, and others were just plain arses! Those arses, are still arses to almost anyone who doesn't agree with them. My sister bought a new BMW 328is back in 1997, and I love BMW's ever since. Things have changed since I bought my BMW. I have an E36 318is, and love everything about it, except for the power of the engine. I have come across people on this forum who think that owners of 318's are.....for lack of a better term, not BMW fans or enthusiasts, which isn't true at all.

The above is kind of the same as bashing a sponsor just because you had a bad experience with them, and someone else had a good experience, and you don't agree with the other guys views.
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the afformentioned thread(the one I had started) was an expression of my opinion. However, all said and done, not trying to point fingers here, oddly enough an associate of Bimmersport made a post about how tired he is of every negative BS rant turning into a positive experience at RMP. I asked him.."If it was your shop, would you be complaining about positive feedback?" For reasons unknown the thread was quickly locked. All of my comments were not directed towards anyone in particular, and now I have pm's from fellow members asking me where I went and how much it was. If everyone here thinks I'm lying, playing a game, etc. I can assure you I'm not.
I was merely looking for some feedback, and all I got was a bunch of childish accusations, saying I'm a fake. I'm a 32 year old engineer. I dont have time for the people on here that make the rest of you guys look like childish whiners. If the moderators were able to filter these negative/favortistic members it would make this site a lot more enjoyable....people might actually start coming out to meets.

Gemini 323, this was a well written thread. Its unfortunate that a few children, still with their mommy, tit in their mouth, living at home, in a $2000 beater, have made posts. otherwise, it would have been a great thread.

For those wanting to know where I went and how much I paid for my Inspection 2...its none of your business...move along.
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Gemini 323, this was a well written thread. Its unfortunate that a few children, still with their mommy, tit in their mouth, living at home, in a $2000 beater, have made posts. otherwise, it would have been a great thread.

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I made a post in this thread and I don't think that it was immature in any way, nor did I attack anyone. I'm a 30 year old engineer and I don't drive a $2,000 beater but I do feel like I was labeled as a person "still with their mommy, tit in their mouth". See the problem is even when you think you're mature enough to make statement you go ahead and blow it all by insulting everyone on a thread. Generalization FTL
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