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Old 04-07-2010, 02:32 PM   #16
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I think it's already at least 30 years too late. Toronto is not a so-called "world calss" city and never will be. There is absolutely no chance that Toronto will ever have a proper transit system, not in my lifetime and probably not in your grandchildren's either.
i know...i'm just being optimistic, but in reality its quite sad. and 30 years behind is being generous.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:33 PM   #17
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I heard that Adam Giamboner is going to add an "orgy car" on each subway train, and a special section on buses and streetcars where you can meet others for a quickie. Now "ride the TTC" will have a whole new meaning.
I am so switching over to TTC
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:35 PM   #18
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i know...i'm just being optimistic, but in reality its quite sad. and 30 years behind is being generous.
I was going to say 50 years behind, but since almost none of you were here then, it wouldn't make much sense. I had just arrived here 50 years ago, and we lived about .8 km east of Bayview, just south of Sheppard. Back then there was not even a bus on Sheppard, you had to hitchhike or walk to Yonge St to catch the subway.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:35 PM   #19
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I heard that Adam Giamboner is going to add an "orgy car" on each subway train, and a special section on buses and streetcars where you can meet others for a quickie. Now "ride the TTC" will have a whole new meaning.
to stay competitive, go transit will change its name to the come transit.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:38 PM   #20
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to stay competitive, go transit will change its name to the come transit.
But all the chicks will still want to ride the red rocket.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:39 PM   #21
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Would you rather see your taxes triple than what they are now ?
or settle for the old transit system ??

You choose !

btw, I took the subway for the 1st time in 5-6 years last night to watch a Leaf game.

The system runs well ! No complaints
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:41 PM   #22
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Would you rather see your taxes triple than what they are now ?
or settle for the old transit system ??

You choose !
that's not the point. the point is they dropped the ball on this a long time ago. taxes wouldn't need to be 3x higher to fix everything if it was modernized, maintained and adapted to modern needs of the time.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #23
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Do you have any idea how much money it takes, just to run the TTC !?!?! Nevermind expanding and modernizing it ! Raising fares and taxes alone can barely help run it nevermind modernizing it.

Private investment and government funds is what it needs thrown at it ! $$$
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:47 PM   #24
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Do you have any idea how much money it takes, just to run the TTC !?!?! Nevermind expanding and modernizing it ! Raising fares and taxes alone can barely help run it nevermind modernizing it.

Private investment and government funds is what it needs thrown at it ! $$$
that is only because it wasn't done in real-time. other cities on this planet seem to manage. its called bad management. now they're just spending enough to keep it from falling apart and that is happening anyway. at some point they'll have to do something or it will all implode. maybe the city will need to take a loan and pay it off over 100 years so that it doesn't raise taxes instantaneously. or we just move toronto to a new location once it all collapses.
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^^ You need to take a trip to cities in th U.S. Michigan (Detroit) and Cleveland Ohio to see collapses !
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:54 PM   #26
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^^ You need to take a trip to cities in th U.S. Michigan (Detroit) and Cleveland Ohio to see collapses !
i go to detroit every year. never plan on going to cleveland.

but anyway, what is your solution for the metro? from what i gather we should do nothing or at least stay the course?
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Old 04-07-2010, 03:00 PM   #27
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but anyway, what is your solution for the metro? from what i gather we should do nothing or at least stay the course?
I dont give a crap about public transit. I hardly ever use it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 03:14 PM   #28
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I absolutely despise streetcars, the tracks are worse to drive on than rutted gravel roads, they're loud from all the screeching on the tracks and they always hold up traffic so much because everybody is afraid of passing them and of course nobody can move when the doors are open. The rest of the civilized world came up with a solution a good 60 years ago:


The TTC is atrocious no matter how you put it, and that won't change unless someone wants to throw a couple billion dollars at it. And I never heard about Miller wanting to bring down the Gardiner, it's the only reason the drive to my gf's house only takes 35 minutes, without it I would spend an hour on the 401, I can't even imagine how long it would take without using a highway.

I wish I could say I don't care about public transit, but even living in north etobicoke I still use it whenever I go downtown, I'd rather spend twice the time getting there and back than pay $10 an hour for parking. And speaking of getting downtown, why does is there a damn bus stop ever block? On a busy day the bus can't even get up to speed before stopping again.
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:38 PM   #29
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I've almost hit pedestrians twice when they get off the streetcars.

driving up beside it, looking for pedestrians on the right crossing the intersection, wham, doors swing open, streetcar honks his horn, I slam on the brakes a few feet from the ****tards.

Very unsafe.
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:40 PM   #30
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I swear that dimwit of a Mayor wouldn't be able to hold a job down in a fast food joint in the private sector.
Most politicians don't care about the city or people, all they care about is their own pockets.
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