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Old 08-02-2010, 10:02 AM   #76
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haha thx it's kinda funny though because she got a lot of attention at the last event as well.
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:09 AM   #77
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haha thx it's kinda funny though because she got a lot of attention at the last event as well.
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And she was driving LOL
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:59 PM   #78
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Nice pics... one thing tho - that's my sister!

I'm glad you guys could come out. hopefully we'll see you driving there soon!

Shawn

HA!

Sorry I couldn't stay longer, I would have liked a ride along.. I did go out with the red e30 for a fun ride, 55.8.

I'll be keeping a keen eye on the registration for the next event so I don't miss it. A quick post here from anyone who sees it up on MCO when it appears would be much appreciated.

I'm going to hold off on installing my BBK and roast the factory brakes one more time.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:52 AM   #79
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Why are you going with BBK? Last time I checked Klaus was still running stock brakes
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:03 AM   #80
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Klaus would have to be mindful of what class of car he's in, and a BBK puts you entirely into a higher category. My stockers were well over 450*F at Calabogie with 25 minute runs, which was right at the limit for the pads. I've overheated my brakes on hilly runs in QC before.

But mostly I'm doing it for feel: the E30 is terribly squishy. This has less volume in the front, meaning more boost for the back yet more bite on the front, so its balanced with less pedal travel. I hope they feel more like E90 or Mini brakes.. I'm always terribly disappointed in the E30 feel.

I will have to re-learn my heal-toe though, which will suck.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:10 AM   #81
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Stainless lines? Better ducting would help too. Was the fluid boiling? Without going to a BBK, there's lots you can do to lower temps.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:16 AM   #82
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I have to say I always found the e30 rock solid in braking, in terms of pedal feel. More so than any other cars. Maybe the lines are old and ballooning? or air in the lines or something? I don't recall having squishy brake feel in the e30, except when the lines blew

Edit: I'm just brainstorming out loud. I obviously still think you should go for the BBK.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:19 AM   #83
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Braking is for pussies. Long skinny pedal is where it's at.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:26 AM   #84
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Its easy for me to justify a BBK since I already have it, I just haven't installed it. It comes with stainless lines, etc, too. Rotors are cheap, pads go to 1000*F.

On my QC trip the pads overheated (wicked nasty fade) and boiled the (old) fluid. I've since changed to SuperBlue which was definitely better. I have PBR ceramic pads now, btw, which I generally like. I'm switching to Hawke DTC-05 fronts and Hawke ceramic rears which according to UUC has excellent balance.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:28 AM   #85
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Is there any ducting for your brakes? That's a little nuts to boil the fluid on a road trip. Regardless of how spirited the driving is...
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:29 AM   #86
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I'm running stock brakes just with Hawk HP+ pads and stainless steel lines and I've never experienced any brake fade, even after 30min runs at Calabogie in my e36. No brake ducts, but I did remove the fog lights. Also, I was running with 15" bottlecaps last year which don't do much for venting. Oh yeah, and I run ATE superblue fluid.

BBK = more rotating unsprung mass = slower accel. If you can get rid of the issues without increasing size & weight in your wheel package, that would ideal.

Next event is a double header - August 14th and 15th. I'll post as soon as registration opens. This weekend is nationals in St-Eustache. anyone going?
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:06 PM   #87
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Of course I have the factory vents. But remember, E30 brakes are tiny even compared to normal E36. Even so....

UUC BBK = lower unsprung weight. Aluminum hat + wilwood 300mm rotor weighs less than my factory rotor. Granted, it is a larger diameter, but I suspect it at least balances out. 4 pot all aluminum caliper is also significantly lighter than factory. No adapter bracket is used. Rear is unchanged. If I wanted to, I could of course run the wilwood cross drilled, which is aggressively lighter than the non-drilled, but is much more prone to cracking. They even have a scalloped rotor if I want to get wild and poor.

Also, at Calabogie, I was only running 8psi and was hitting true 200kph on Rocky Road. (Oversize tires means speedo matches GPS.) That's a lot more energy going into the brakes than a factory E30 or E36.
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So uh, need help with the install?

Insane. I hit 200km/h once at Bogie and it scared the crap out of me when I had to brake. The ABS kicked in, the car went all squirelly...yeah, that's why I've got new pads and rotors for next time. Just need tires for next time.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:21 PM   #89
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I'm too lazy to install them now. 200kph is very fast, no way around it. You can really feel all the energy in the car, and any little lateral movement and like the car feels like it will fly off the track sideways. The shorter ratio rack doesn't help this problem, but should be good for auto-x.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:28 PM   #90
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I always eased off before hitting the Mulligans. 170-180 was about the max. I'm pretty sure it drove the instructor nuts. Same with the front straight and turn 1, he'd always tell me to ease off around 150, I didn't think it was necessary but....

I'm dying to go back!!
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