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Old 01-20-2010, 09:28 AM   #1
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has anyone repaired door panel bubbling insert card?

Well.. I've put the car away for storage this winter and yesterday noticed a few things i would like to take care of...


i immediately jumped right into attempting to fix the insert door card bubbling issue...

i seperated the leather/vinyl from the card and its shrunk quite a bit... i was planning on doing it over in black ultra suede.

i'll do a write up on this as long as it goes well.... im just curious though.. i've been reading and it sounds like the 3M 90 spray i bought in a can isnt the suggested approach to having the seude stick to the fiberboard.

has anyone attempted this fix? and if so what was your experience... any tips would be appreciated.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:46 AM   #2
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I had the same problem with mine and honestly I found it easyer to just buy new panels. I got two new front ones for $150. If you want to take it somewhere I know someone really good that could recover it for you in whatever you want let me know.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:43 AM   #3
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I had the same problem with mine and honestly I found it easyer to just buy new panels. I got two new front ones for $150. If you want to take it somewhere I know someone really good that could recover it for you in whatever you want let me know.
ya i've heard its a daunting task... im up for the challenge though... just found a deal on some ultra black suede on sale at a local fabric shop... they want 30 dollars for a peice 55inchs by 33inchs.. i'm sure that will be plenty.

ive got all winter to mess around with it... just need to know if there is an adhesive that works better than others.

if this works well i might do the headliner too...
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:21 PM   #4
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I had my headliner done by a proffesional it was a bitch cause the old glue was so hard to get rid of. Good luck but to me it was way worth it to pay someone.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:56 PM   #5
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i just picked up the ultra suede material... went with a dark charcoal... the black looked almost purple in the light....

i've got way too much... if anyone is interested in doing the same i've got extra material... just bring me a 6 pack of MGD and i'll give you enough product to do yours too.

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Old 01-20-2010, 01:58 PM   #6
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I had the same problem with mine and honestly I found it easyer to just buy new panels. I got two new front ones for $150. If you want to take it somewhere I know someone really good that could recover it for you in whatever you want let me know.
yea im going to stay away from the headliner... its not a big deal as mine is still in good shape... i wonder if it would be easier to just spray paint over top the grey headliner, rather than apply new material...hmmmmmm
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:00 PM   #7
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Not with this specific application, but I've had good results with contact cement - you can get it in a spray can too.

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Old 01-20-2010, 02:15 PM   #8
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yea im going to stay away from the headliner... its not a big deal as mine is still in good shape... i wonder if it would be easier to just spray paint over top the grey headliner, rather than apply new material...hmmmmmm
Honestly it will probably cost you about $400 to do the roof and all pillars and the rear deck lid in black sued.
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Why do these headliners on E36 need so much attention? On E30s they look okay and those are much older. Also when you grab E36 door handle, it seems not solid as it is on E30...
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Why do these headliners on E36 need so much attention? On E30s they look okay and those are much older. Also when you grab E36 door handle, it seems not solid as it is on E30...
the headliners don't necessarily need "so much attention" my issue is simply a matter of esthetics... its grey... while the rest of the interior is black...

i've not had the pleasure of comparing a 36 to 30 but no issues with door handles.... maybe just loose on some?
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Correct, may feel lose due to wear and tear.
Ok, so it is pretty much the colour thing that you want.
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My issue was the glue was old and it was seperating and falling down. The E30 headliner is constructed different and you don't have the same problem. On the E36 there is a board that is the structure and the fabric is glued to it, the glue gets old and stops holding.
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these videos were golden to help tighten up everything in the door panels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv4ZE...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKEnV...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghftCXKaDA
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Well.. I've put the car away for storage this winter and yesterday noticed a few things i would like to take care of...


i immediately jumped right into attempting to fix the insert door card bubbling issue...

i seperated the leather/vinyl from the card and its shrunk quite a bit... i was planning on doing it over in black ultra suede.

i'll do a write up on this as long as it goes well.... im just curious though.. i've been reading and it sounds like the 3M 90 spray i bought in a can isnt the suggested approach to having the seude stick to the fiberboard.

has anyone attempted this fix? and if so what was your experience... any tips would be appreciated.
Hi, unless you are in a heated garage or it's summer I wouldn't attempt it. You need warm conditions as the material, when cold, shrinks and attempting to glue it back will be troublesome. Get a good heat gun, 70 degrees room temp to work in. and some really good industrial weather strip/contact cement glue. you don't want to do the job twice. Keep in mind there will be shrinkage once you go outside in cold weather so make it a bit larger the then area. If possible, and the backing is thick enough - staple the edges of the vinyl to the board as an added measure to prevent from peeling in case the glue lets go. But make sure your staples don't go through the backing. So check thickness of board and material and right depth of staple.
Some material has the added padding behind it to give it more cushion. I have used some spray adhesive and the vinyl material didn't like it. I think there was a chemical reaction between the glue and the petroleum based vinyl and the glue didn't cure. just giving my experience. :-)

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Old 01-20-2010, 05:04 PM   #15
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Hi, unless you are in a heated garage or it's summer I wouldn't attempt it. You need warm conditions as the material, when cold, shrinks and attempting to glue it back will be troublesome. Get a good heat gun, 70 degrees room temp to work in. and some really good industrial weather strip/contact cement glue. you don't want to do the job twice. Keep in mind there will be shrinkage once you go outside in cold weather so make it a bit larger the then area. If possible, and the backing is thick enough - staple the edges of the vinyl to the board as an added measure to prevent from peeling in case the glue lets go. But make sure your staples don't go through the backing. So check thickness of board and material and right depth of staple.
Some material has the added padding behind it to give it more cushion. I have used some spray adhesive and the vinyl material didn't like it. I think there was a chemical reaction between the glue and the petroleum based vinyl and the glue didn't cure. just giving my experience. :-)

good luck!
thanks for the advice.... im in a heated garage... plus im not driving the car so i'll let it cure indoors over the winter.

i've got a heat gun... shouldnt be a problem... not using vinyl

should i sand down the fiberboard to remove old glue or is that not required?

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