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01-10-2010, 04:50 AM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Quebec
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Car: E30 and e36
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Engine won't start
So a few weeks ago I started my car just for a few meters and since then it does not start. The engine turns over and sometime it feels like it is going to start but nothing.
I have checked all my coils, they all work, and changed my spark plugs.
I also checked if gas was going to the engine and there is no problem there.
I have tried everything I could think of like trying to start the car with the gas pedal down but still nothing.
Can anyone help me ?
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01-10-2010, 07:24 AM
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Parts hoarding partner...
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahniak
So a few weeks ago I started my car just for a few meters and since then it does not start. The engine turns over and sometime it feels like it is going to start but nothing.
I have checked all my coils, they all work, and changed my spark plugs.
I also checked if gas was going to the engine and there is no problem there.
I have tried everything I could think of like trying to start the car with the gas pedal down but still nothing.
Can anyone help me ?
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did you check for spark at the plug end? check your fuses too. also check crank position sensor. maybe you simply flooded the car with gas?
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01-10-2010, 12:41 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Markham
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probably your starter
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01-10-2010, 02:36 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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Location: Quebec
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Car: E30 and e36
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There is a spark on each spark plug, and if it was the starter the engine would not turn over right ?
If it is flooded what should I do ?
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01-10-2010, 03:04 PM
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A.K.A. crossfire291
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahniak
There is a spark on each spark plug, and if it was the starter the engine would not turn over right ?
If it is flooded what should I do ?
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if it was the starter, you might get some sound, maybe from the starter, if your lucky. but the engine wont try to turn over at all.
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01-10-2010, 05:22 PM
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3rd Gear Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahniak
There is a spark on each spark plug, and if it was the starter the engine would not turn over right ?
If it is flooded what should I do ?
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your engine can still try to turn over if it was the starter.. just the car won't start.
I've already changed the starter in my car a few times.. i know the symptoms
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01-10-2010, 05:35 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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How would i know for sure if it is the starter ?
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01-10-2010, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahniak
There is a spark on each spark plug, and if it was the starter the engine would not turn over right ?
If it is flooded what should I do ?
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well after a while the fuel will evaporate in the intake; and should make for a clean start. But if you press the pedal down you open the throttle body. in the old days we did this to allow more air in to get the car going. But everything is fuel injected and timed. Don't touch the pedal at all. If you still smell lots of fuel you may need to remove the intake boot to let the fuel dry out.
A bad stater simply wont turn the engine over at all. You may hear the solenoid click, but starter won't engage.
did you check your crank position sensor? Sometimes when it gets faulty it won't allow your car to start.
I don't have anymore answers but others may have more experience and give you better direction.
Sorry.
Last edited by Ceeker; 01-10-2010 at 05:54 PM.
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01-10-2010, 06:10 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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Ok so I did take the intake boot to make the gas dry out and there was alot of gas. So now I am just waiting I guess I will let it sit for the night.
Where is the crank position sensor located and how do I know if it is faulty ?
Thank you for the answers
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01-11-2010, 10:11 AM
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Some notes:
- If the crank sensor is faulty, you won't get fuel or spark.
- If it's stumbling at all, it's probably not the CPS, but just for information, it's on the front timing cover, right above the timing wheel on the crank balancer. It plug in under the intake. You test it by measuring resistance across the terminals ... 580 Ohms if I recall correctly (the Bentley is WRONG on the value!)
- Any CEL codes?
- We had a 330i that would not start ... it took FOREVER to get it going (it sat for a few months). basically, just a LOT of cranking, pedal pushing, and trying over and over. It seemed like half throttle while cranking worked best ... once it fired, it sputtered a few times, then ran fine, and it's been good ever since. No idea what the issue was ... maybe some kinda air lock in the fuel lines? Just put a charger on it, and try again with a full battery.
The guy that says it's the starter is retarded ... if the car cranks, the starter is fine (unless it's cranking REALLY slowly).
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01-11-2010, 07:13 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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Well it finaly started today !
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01-11-2010, 07:35 PM
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How does a fuel injection car get flooded? Isn’t the fuel injector’s controlled by the ecu?
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01-11-2010, 08:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parm
How does a fuel injection car get flooded? Isn’t the fuel injector’s controlled by the ecu?
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fuel into the system is still fuel; and if the car doesn't start it will still keep pumping fuel if there is no spark. not all fuel injection systems cut the fuel off when the ecm doesn't see spark. can happen...has happened to me..and obviously to the guy who just admitted when he took the intake bellow off the thing was fuel of raw fuel just sitting there. :-)
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01-11-2010, 08:15 PM
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Parts hoarding partner...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahniak
Well it finaly started today !
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yay! congrats!!
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01-11-2010, 11:04 PM
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6th Gear Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahniak
Well it finaly started today !
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Ok, you've had your fun with the suspense ... what was the issue?
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