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Old 10-27-2009, 07:04 AM   #1
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why no bite



Been out there some time and nohting. I think the seller is on max.


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Old 10-27-2009, 08:20 AM   #2
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Because it's just another case of an owner being more infatuated with the car than its worth. It's still an E30 with an M50. For what he's asking, you can get an E36 with an M52.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:48 AM   #3
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ET+42 VW wheels don't do an e30 justice.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:21 AM   #4
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Because it's just another case of an owner being more infatuated with the car than its worth. It's still an E30 with an M50. For what he's asking, you can get an E36 with an M52.
What would you say it's worth then?
There's easily more than $2500 worth of upgraded parts in the car and the car looks to be in decent shape. If you bought a clean, stock E30 and did all the work to get it to the spec listed in the add it would cost $5000+.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:23 AM   #5
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I think its work what he's asking if the body is in good shape and the swap was done right.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:04 AM   #6
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Big D might be right thou ..

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ164115753

I think in the end it all depends on how much of a car enthusiast you are. I know when I'm in my 60's I might buy a old beat up Toyota Supra or E46 M3 or Skyline. If someone keeps it in good shape for many years they might keep the value up a bit.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:06 AM   #7
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Yack!

You can't compare a sweet 5 speed E30 to that AUTO E36@!#
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:30 AM   #8
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What would you say it's worth then?
There's easily more than $2500 worth of upgraded parts in the car and the car looks to be in decent shape. If you bought a clean, stock E30 and did all the work to get it to the spec listed in the add it would cost $5000+.
The painful truth that must be learned when modding cars is that it's not too different from flushing money down the toilet - the only difference being how much satisfaction you get out of it. An extreme example of this is racecars. To build a 996 911 Cup car will require buying a 996, then with all the mods you'll be flirting with 100k before you bat an eyelash. All the while you can buy a ready to go, perfectly tuned and sorted 911 Cup racer with race wins in the log book for 30-40k.

So having said that, an E30 with an M50 should be worth less than an equivalent shape E36 325 - which is a newer, better car. In other words, around 2500.
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The painful truth that must be learned when modding cars is that it's not too different from flushing money down the toilet - the only difference being how much satisfaction you get out of it. An extreme example of this is racecars. To build a 996 911 Cup car will require buying a 996, then with all the mods you'll be flirting with 100k before you bat an eyelash. All the while you can buy a ready to go, perfectly tuned and sorted 911 Cup racer with race wins in the log book for 30-40k.

So having said that, an E30 with an M50 should be worth less than an equivalent shape E36 325 - which is a newer, better car. In other words, around 2500.
This car is similar to your porsche example in that in total the owner is probably out 6-7k on this car and he's asking 4k for it. I'll agree that trying to make back all the money you put into a car when trying to sell it is impossible and unreasonable, but saying a car is worth the same amount as if it were just stock when it has clearly had 1000's of $ worth of work done on it is also unreasonable. That work has added to the value of the vehicle, if it were to be appraised it would be appraised at a higher value than if it was stock. That being said, the only people that would be interested in paying 4k for a car like this are enthusiasts that know, understand, and appreciate the work and money that has been put into the car.

you know deep down inside that E30+M50B25 > E36 325i
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:16 AM   #10
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I think most E30 owners want to build their cars from start. Call me crazy but taking pride and knowing its done right is important, buying a car someone else has Modded is borring and you never know if it was done right.

but it is a good price for someone who wants a car that goes good in a strait line.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:57 AM   #11
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If I hadn't started my own Alpine White E30 project I would have bought this in a heart beat.

I'll have about 13 to 15k into mine when I'm done. I'd be lucky to get 8k or 9k if I tried to sell it.

Its all relative.

Even for 15k my car will be way better than what you can buy for 15k.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:48 PM   #12
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The painful truth that must be learned when modding cars is that it's not too different from flushing money down the toilet - the only difference being how much satisfaction you get out of it. An extreme example of this is racecars. To build a 996 911 Cup car will require buying a 996, then with all the mods you'll be flirting with 100k before you bat an eyelash. All the while you can buy a ready to go, perfectly tuned and sorted 911 Cup racer with race wins in the log book for 30-40k.

So having said that, an E30 with an M50 should be worth less than an equivalent shape E36 325 - which is a newer, better car. In other words, around 2500.
Well said. That's why I've lost my interest in modding. I'd rather spend the money I would have spend on mods and buy a newer, better car. When it comes time to selling it, I know I'll get more money back than for a cheaper, modded car.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:05 PM   #13
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No one here 'mods' their car to increase the value, they mod because they want better handling or more power, or something to set their car apart from all the rest.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:37 PM   #14
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I agree with richie, i want to mod my car myself, thats the point of getting one. But i guess untill i actually saw the car in life i can't say anything about price, because even tho pictures are good, in real life it's a diff story, could be even better than on pics or could be worse.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:16 PM   #15
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Talked to the owner and the car was in a front end collision. It was up here for sale last year same price before the accident. That's most likely why people aren't interested.

More info(from what owner told me):
-Swap done by bimmersport last july
-300k on body
-odo works
-motor wasn't rebuilt nor timing chain done
-318is tranny 4.10 open dif
-no a/c
-crack free dash
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