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Old 10-04-2009, 08:51 PM   #1
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98 octane fuel

Hey all...

Just wanted to brag about the mileage I've been getting lately.

For the last week I've been driving around Europe on 98 octanes. I've been trying to be as fuel efficient in my driving (gas prices are killer here) and the best mileage out of a full tank of gas that I've been able to get is 435 miles to a tank.

I averaged 7.6L/100km =)



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Old 10-04-2009, 11:04 PM   #2
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Sorry to be negative, but octane is measured differently there.

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Old 10-05-2009, 08:39 AM   #3
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yeah, 98 there is about 94 here.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:27 AM   #4
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Thats what I read up before too but I've never been getting this good of a mileage. In fact, I recall times when my car would get about 400km/tank when I was trying to be as economical as possible.

Also, Shell has 100 octane fuel here as well... which would probably be what.. a 95/96 in canada?

Eitherway, I'm still happy that I managed to get mid 7L/100km out of her.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:21 PM   #5
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No ethanol in most of europe, no stupid additives.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:16 PM   #6
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In the north east US (like Vermont) I find there is plenty of gas without ethanol, and I get better fuel economy with that. Makes you wonder ... if the fuel is 10% watered down with ethanol, but you get 12% worse fuel economy, is it really worth it?
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:06 PM   #7
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Is it ultra 94 that is no ethnol or is it shell gold? One of them says that at the pumps
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #8
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shell has no ethanol in its 91, something like up to 5% in its 89, and up to 10% in it 87.

I only go to petro or shell as I know for fact they are top tier

Can't comment on Ultra or sunoco as I don't use them (are they top tier or just high octane?)
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:31 PM   #9
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i only use sunoco 94... hmmm considering a change now.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:51 AM   #10
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If you're only getting 400km to a tank (on Canadian fuels ) while driving economically, then something is wrong.

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:05 AM   #11
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Did anyone see the Top Gear where they measured the fuel economy of an M3 vs a Prius going the same speed (as fast as the Prius could go) around a race track? The M3 was better, and the point was that it's mostly dependent on how you drive rather than what you drive.
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Did anyone see the Top Gear where they measured the fuel economy of an M3 vs a Prius going the same speed (as fast as the Prius could go) around a race track? The M3 was better, and the point was that it's mostly dependent on how you drive rather than what you drive.
yeah... but you gotta understand that a 4 banger going full out hitting the rev limiter will always be less economical than an 8 cylinder car cruising at the same speed. if you tested the cars accelerating to 30km/h and then breaking to a halt, over and over (what i experience everyday downtown), the prius or even non-hybrid 4 cylinder cars would be more economical than an m3. its all the way the test is run.

most if not all hybrids are less economical at highway speeds than at city driving speeds and conditions, so that test is sorta bias. i still think it was an awesome test but it proves that larger engines are more economical if higher speeds are maintained because they do not need to work as hard to maintain that high speed.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:08 AM   #13
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Here's a perfect example of where ppl get confused. Higher octane rating will not increase fuel mileage at all. We all get trained into thinking thats the way it works. In reality the reason you notice an increase is due to the quality of the fuel being better. Most fuel companies will pair octane with fuel quality so your 87 octane fuel is also a lower overall grade of fuel therefore decreasing its efficiency. OP the main reason you are probably noticing such a difference is because European fuel is far superior to the Canadian crap we have. Even states fuel is better but due to the octane enhancers such as benzene and xylene that are used down there which are known cancer causing agents, it has not been allowed in Canada. We still use heavy metal alternatives to lead such as MMT to attempt for the same thing. This is what causes buildup on O2 sensors and other emissions components causing them to fail, something you will not find to be common in the States at all. Sorry if this was long, just thought it might be informative to the odd person.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:34 PM   #14
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you shipped your car to europe? Is it a difficult process? how much did it cost?
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:01 AM   #15
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I don't know bout that gas in europe, in most eastern europe countries it's leaded, which sucks. Thow out your catalytic in a week.
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