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Old 07-10-2009, 07:24 AM   #1
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Gaming PC Build: Need suggestions



Need some suggestions/recommendations from anybody who has built their own machines. Im considering getting a desktop and i'm unsure which way to go. Pre-built (dell) or self built. Researched both, but still on the fence. Im not scared to open up a computer, since ive done it before (ie: replaced video cards, harddrives, memory, and cleaning) on my laptop and my old desktop. Anyways, if anybody has built their own, was it cost beneficial? headache? parts availablity/scarsity? i know of only computer canada and tiger direct as local suppliers are there any more in the GTA? I'll only consider online as last resort. anyways, here is my initial guidelines for my build.

Budget: 700-800 cdn taxes in (thats just for the computer)
CPU: intel, duo core (e8400), or maybe quad core for future proofing?
GPU: evga 260 GTX (would like to run it at 1680X1050 resolution)
Motherboard: Asus P5Q SE Pro
Mem: min 3 or 4 gb ddr2
OS: looking to run at 64bit, (not including this in budget)

(all of the above recommended by IT person at work)

Mainly going to game on it, run movies, general apps (ie: office, internet). Probably use it for 2 yrs then sell it and do it again.

If anybody has some input on this i'd sure like to read them.. thanks
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:06 AM   #2
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All looks good, but I would get a ATI 4890. It's cheaper and faster.

Check out Windows 7 RC1.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:08 AM   #3
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:35 AM   #4
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I would recommend an Nvidia card over ATI anyday. The tomshardware link is a good start to look up benchmarks. Example Quadcore vs. Dual Core .. you will find that Quad wont do much for you in terms of gaming and your better off putting that money in a better videocard or better dual processor ..at the same time dual is getting a bit outdated.

btw, Tigerdirect had a great deal on an i7

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...9014&CatId=333

Heres a quad ..
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...2660&CatId=333

Make sure you get a good power supply for your gaming video card (they usually have a connecter from the power supply because they draw extra a lot of power. I recommend 600w+
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:10 PM   #5
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^^ 600w+ huh. i was thinking more in the lines of a 500w, which i believe the casing i was looking at had it included (Antec Sonata 3).
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:42 PM   #6
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^^ 600w+ huh. i was thinking more in the lines of a 500w, which i believe the casing i was looking at had it included (Antec Sonata 3).
500w? don't be a pussy, I'm using a Corsair 1000w, with all the harddrives & usb's I have hooked up, I need it, and there's nothing wrong with ATI, I've used ATI video cards in all my computers with no problems.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:51 PM   #7
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I'll second the fact that Nvidia isn't the undisputed master of the universe anymore. Use whatever you get the best deal on... ATI and Nvidia are both making very good cards these days (although if there is a specific game or two you want to play, do some online research. Often different games favour different cards.)
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:59 PM   #8
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Canada computers was selling a MSI 4890 for 209$ with a 20$ MIR. Really good card for the money.

Ive been looking at alot of parts lately, and been reading up alot on PC hardware as I was going to build my own gaming rig as well, but then decided that I dont really need another PC as I dont even play games that often, and I got my 360 for that now.

In any case I had a pretty sick rig put together these are the parts that I had opted for:

4gb Mushkin 1066 ram
E8400 cpu
500 gb Caviar Black WD hd.
P5Q-VM (Matx I love Matx mobos)
Msi 4890
Generic DVD combo drive about 30$. (SATA)

Total with taxes was about 800$. Not including case, or powersupply, or operating system.


After doing alot of reading on the subject, turns out the E7400, which is really close to the E8400 is really good in terms of price and performance. The only thing it lacks is a lower L2 cache, 3mb instead of 6, but still performs really good on games, etc- so its definate;y the best bang for buck in terms of being about 50$ cheaper then the e8400.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:14 PM   #9
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Especially with all of the problems Nvidia has had with their chips lately. Canada computers has had the 4890 1GB on sale for $189.

Sonata is a nice case, 500w is great.

I have a q8200 with a 4870 and it plays games great.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:07 PM   #10
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Especially with all of the problems Nvidia has had with their chips lately. Canada computers has had the 4890 1GB on sale for $189.

Sonata is a nice case, 500w is great.

I have a q8200 with a 4870 and it plays games great.
?? what problems ??
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:16 PM   #11
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500w? don't be a pussy, I'm using a Corsair 1000w, with all the harddrives & usb's I have hooked up, I need it, and there's nothing wrong with ATI, I've used ATI video cards in all my computers with no problems.
I bought both almost top of the line cards (first buying the ATI) i found the vector graphics were off and seen a cracks when playing games with full settings except for anti-aliasing ( maybe thats why .. I kept it at 2) for Call of duty and Battlefield. It felt like the level I was playing was in a box. I returned the card and picked up an nvidia and found it looked better. I did get the latest drivers for both cards.

I dunno .. to each there own but Nvidia always looked better for me. Its also what they use in the playstation3 while xbox 360 uses the ATI chipset
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?? what problems ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NForce4#Flaws

And all the problems with the 8800 series.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:51 PM   #13
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NForce4#Flaws

And all the problems with the 8800 series.
That's news to me.. I've been running an 8800GTX for almost 2 years, still plays the newest games smooth as silk at 1650 x 1050... (dual core 3.0 ghz, 4gb ddr2 1066)
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:16 AM   #14
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I just built something very similar:

E8400
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R
4GB Patriot 1066 5-5-5-15
Nvidia 8400 (stand in until I pick a video card, likely a BFG GTX 260 1GB 216)
650W corsair video card
Antec 300 case

Sonata is decent, however the antec smartpower power supplies have split rails, which is NFG for any sort of semi serious video card. Find the biggest PSU with the biggest rail that you can find for about $120. Windows 7 is the way to go, especially since it's legit and free right now.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:32 AM   #15
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Oh man...I built my own "rig" what like...5-6 years ago now. Times have changed haha. But I guess I don't play games anymore...
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