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Old 03-09-2003, 05:28 PM   #16
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um, a stock 5th-gen will not do under 15....like 15.4, the 4th-gen are faster.

Also, in city driving, the 328 is faster (more torque), who cruises around town at 5000rpm to stay within the powerband?
That is true, I have yet to see a stock 5th gen do under 15.
However stock Ludes can do 15.1, been there, seen it.
But I've seen more consistent ones around 15.3s

I do agree that with the torque advantage of the 328 for city and probably on a freeway run, advantage to the 328 again.
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Old 03-09-2003, 05:30 PM   #17
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preludes are slow, plain and simple, to heavy for a 4 banger.

i owned the 5th generation prelude before my bimmer and got smoked many times, doesnt matter how good you shift, they just are too heavy.
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:16 PM   #18
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yup..im not saying 14.3, like 14.7..and its very achievable...taking into account the tire, temperature, elevation...driving skill, launching..etc, it can be done...i never, ever saw a stock 328 get, or beat that times..i've seen 14.8 and .9..but never .7 or below.

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um, a stock 5th-gen will not do under 15....like 15.4, the 4th-gen are faster.

Also, in city driving, the 328 is faster (more torque), who cruises around town at 5000rpm to stay within the powerband?

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That is true, I have yet to see a stock 5th gen do under 15.
However stock Ludes can do 15.1, been there, seen it.
But I've seen more consistent ones around 15.3s

I do agree that with the torque advantage of the 328 for city and probably on a freeway run, advantage to the 328 again.


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preludes are slow, plain and simple, to heavy for a 4 banger.

i owned the 5th generation prelude before my bimmer and got smoked many times, doesnt matter how good you shift, they just are too heavy.







Whats the matter Jon???? I told you, that you were wrong you dumb ricer. See thats the difference between the real world and your stupid magazine times.

Like I said on msn, BMW OWNS YOU BITCH!
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:26 PM   #19
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Whats the matter Jon???? I told you, that you were wrong you dumb ricer. See thats the difference between the real world and your stupid magazine times.

Like I said on msn, BMW OWNS YOU BITCH!
ill find the times..some guy posted it on hondahookup..said his car was stock! i swear to god! and it wasnt from a magazine..they said 15.3 also..
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:35 PM   #20
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ill find the times..some guy posted it on hondahookup..said his car was stock! i swear to god! and it wasnt from a magazine..they said 15.3 also..
Hahaha, cause what everyone says on "Honda Hookup" should be believed. You are such a ricer, and you cant admit it when you are wrong.

You have never raced a prelude in a 328 and I have so why dont you STFU. You talk like you know what really happens in the real world, but you have never even driven a car nor have your G1 yet. You can quote your stupid numbers all day and I dont give a sh*t. I know what is faster, and so does the guy I raped on the QEW on the way home from niagara falls.

Stop posting your crap on max, people have stopped believing you a long time ago.
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:52 PM   #21
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Hahaha, cause what everyone says on "Honda Hookup" should be believed. You are such a ricer, and you cant admit it when you are wrong.

You have never raced a prelude in a 328 and I have so why dont you STFU. You talk like you know what really happens in the real world, but you have never even driven a car nor have your G1 yet. You can quote your stupid numbers all day and I dont give a sh*t. I know what is faster, and so does the guy I raped on the QEW on the way home from niagara falls.

Stop posting your crap on max, people have stopped believing you a long time ago.

ok you fag, i cant find that ****ing thread...so ill admit i was wrong...i told you last night already, why do u keep saying "you havent driven a car" "you think u know everything"...****ing moron, u know BOTH of those are wrong..what the **** is wrong with you? i dont see how a person as ignorant as you can become a dentist.

what are you? the speaker for max? go back to your post whoring (so will i )
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:57 PM   #22
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ok you fag, i cant find that ****ing thread...so ill admit i was wrong...i told you last night already, why do u keep saying "you havent driven a car" "you think u know everything"...****ing moron, u know BOTH of those are wrong..what the **** is wrong with you? i dont see how a person as ignorant as you can become a dentist.

what are you? the speaker for max? go back to your post whoring (so will i )
Hahaha, Im just picking on you because its so easy. But seriously a prelude cant beat a 328, plain and simple. Stop defending Hondas to the death. I mean if you were to say a s2000 vs a 328, ok fine you are right an s2000 is faster, but a prelude? dude, please.

Look at it from both sides fairly next time.
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Hahaha, Im just picking on you because its so easy. But seriously a prelude cant beat a 328, plain and simple. Stop defending Hondas to the death. I mean if you were to say a s2000 vs a 328, ok fine you are right an s2000 is faster, but a prelude? dude, please.

Look at it from both sides fairly next time.
i have...i seen 328i/is hit only 15.1 i think lowest...neither wasabi or mp328 could do better..and mp328 practices more than wasabi...
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Old 03-09-2003, 08:04 PM   #24
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i have...i seen 328i/is hit only 15.1 i think lowest...neither wasabi or mp328 could do better..and mp328 practices more than wasabi...
Ive seen 14.9 so what?? Dude, these are all different circumstances, different elevations, places in the world, drivers and so on. How can you compare them evenly????? You cant, if you have seen a 328 hit only 15.1, then a prelude that same day at that strip would have hit a 15.5. So stop this you are wrong, plain and simple.


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Old 03-09-2003, 08:13 PM   #25
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Ive seen 14.9 so what?? Dude, these are all different circumstances, different elevations, places in the world, drivers and so on. How can you compare them evenly????? You cant, if you have seen a 328 hit only 15.1, then a prelude that same day at that strip would have hit a 15.5. So stop this you are wrong, plain and simple.


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i dunno, lets ask M328i..he drives both..although i think his prelude looks nicer...electron blue with white wheels (rays engineering) compared to his 328i with the RD lip..

you cant really say the 328 will ALWAYS be faster...it weighs about 100lbs more rougly, maybe more...it has longer gears, and a lower (numerically) final drive, plus it has less HP...so how would it do better for 1/4mile? high speed run no doubt a 328 can ruin the prelude.
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you cant really say the 328 will ALWAYS be faster...it weighs about 100lbs more rougly, maybe more...it has longer gears, and a lower (numerically) final drive, plus it has less HP...so how would it do better for 1/4mile? high speed run no doubt a 328 can ruin the prelude.
The only time that is faster about the Prelude is the speed it depreaciates at. It's a nice 'looking' car, but the 328 is better, then again I don't think they're even in the same price range...
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i dunno, lets ask M328i..he drives both..although i think his prelude looks nicer...electron blue with white wheels (rays engineering) compared to his 328i with the RD lip..

you cant really say the 328 will ALWAYS be faster...it weighs about 100lbs more rougly, maybe more...it has longer gears, and a lower (numerically) final drive, plus it has less HP...so how would it do better for 1/4mile? high speed run no doubt a 328 can ruin the prelude.
who is talking about a 1/4 mile run? I was saying from zero to the limiters, maybe like from zero to like 210, who would win??

See this is where you dont know anything (from your comment above) because you have never raced either car before.
My car has 10 less hp but 50-60 more torque moron, available at a lower rpm, thats how.

The weight his very similar, not even a 100 pounds difference.
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i must say im disipointed in the 'ludes. my buddie bought a '02 and i was not very impressed. it may have 200 hp but the low torque numbers kills the cars performance. the 200hp comes only after 5000 rpm, only then it starts movin. anyone driven one of these rice burners? i would say its the most uncomfortable car ive ever driven one?, its made for some one 5' 0'' tall, to be comfortable.
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Weight sorta depends
both being 97's, the 328 is 3120, the base 'lude is 2954, the SH 3042

Torque is a different story:

328 - 206@3950
lude - 156@5250

big difference
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there is a 240lbs something different idiot, LOW rpm? how often are you at low RPM when your drag racing? all the time..because of your gearing right? well a prelude has SHORT gearing so that it says in the powerband (high rpm) where the HP is, so torque really makes a difference for you off the line, dan's RSX pulled on u car after car right when from when? 2nd gear? i know RSX and prelude are totally different, and you have more torque..but tell me, if you had so much torque, why didnt you beat his car?

the reason is because of weight, and gear ratios, it has a short close gear ratio tranny (6spd)..but on the hwy that thing ****ing flies..it goes to 200km so easy...maybe you should race his RSX-S on the highway
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