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Old 06-25-2009, 08:40 PM   #61
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this whole thread is about a few hundreds of a second? who gives a shit.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:49 PM   #62
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this whole thread is about a few hundreds of a second? who gives a shit.
people at the track gives a shit, those few hundreds of a second means winning or losing.
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:33 AM   #63
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.. that for the average person to get in these two cars it will be easier to do a good lap time on a track with the GTR.
Yeah, wasnt disputing that point.
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:35 AM   #64
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ZR1 > GTR Period.
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:01 PM   #65
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ZR1 > GTR Period.
i reserve my doubts.....i know where my money would go and it aint GM.
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:07 PM   #66
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i reserve my doubts.....i know where my money would go and it aint GM.
+1

ZR1 is no slouch. Looks good to boot. But it has its limitations (as do all cars).
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:15 PM   #67
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kind of on a side note... if you look at it, GM has the fastest sports car in the world, and the fastest sedan in the world. Interesting, isn't it?
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:44 PM   #68
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kind of on a side note... if you look at it, GM has the fastest sports car in the world, and the fastest sedan in the world. Interesting, isn't it?
they really do know how to put together beasts of cars when they have too!
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:26 PM   #69
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they really do know how to put together beasts of cars when they have too!
all they need now is a decent interriors.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:29 PM   #70
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all they need now is a decent interriors.
and better warranties. But actually, the new CTS-V isn't a bad interior on a whole, especially compared to prior generations.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:47 PM   #71
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and better warranties. But actually, the new CTS-V isn't a bad interior on a whole, especially compared to prior generations.


Well i checked out the new cts-v but the price tag was like 85 gs... For some reason even tho i like everything i read about that car, i just wouldn't pay that much for AMERICAN car... maybe its just because of overall American car credibility.
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Well i checked out the new cts-v but the price tag was like 85 gs... For some reason even tho i like everything i read about that car, i just wouldn't pay that much for AMERICAN car... maybe its just because of overall American car credibility.
CanadianDriver website has a news article with 2009 CTS-V pricing. Base model listed at Can$68,500 + $1420 delivery. Pretty close to a C63at $68,675 + $1995.
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CanadianDriver website has a news article with 2009 CTS-V pricing. Base model listed at Can$68,500 + $1420 delivery. Pretty close to a C63at $68,675 + $1995.
Oh yeah well its not bad, the one i saw probably was fullyloaded.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:08 PM   #74
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You see zr1 is FAST but not faster.
Found this translation:

"The test driver for this magazine shootout was Kurt Thiim ,
ex-DTM superstar and Porsche GT3 Cup racer!!

Some of Thiim's comments on the GT-R:

the seats are a little too high

superb balance

despite high weight, it's stable and precise on turn-in even in slow corners

thanks to the 4wd, you can get back on the gas early in the corners

you don't realise how quick it is it is all sort of filtered

but the suspension's reactions are easy to judge

the brakes are up to the job of repeatedly coping with the weight

but the transmission is amongst the best he's ever experienced in a road car, "Smooth as butter and changes without any interruption of power delivery"

Thiim's summary:

"The many praises that have been sung about the GT-R are more than justified. It has endless power, is extremely agile and easy to drive. The engine and transmission make a sensational packet. The only thing that needs to be improved is the ride comfort for normal driving." "
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1st review I've ever read that puts the GT-R second to the ZR-1 and I absolutely love the GTR.
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