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Old 06-25-2009, 10:33 AM   #16
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The BMW dealers have insane pricing. You are getting the exact same quality parts as BMW parts for about HALF. (I kind of laugh when I use "BMW" and "quality parts" in the same sentence...)

As for CCV DIY, there are a few on bimmerforums.com and bimmerfest.com. I don't know if they have any for the 530, but I think the 528 is similar.

Some Tips:
-Go to Walmart any buy a 6-8" square hand held mirror. This will help you see around the intake. (assuming you are not going to take the intake manifold off... I didn't)

-Change all four CCV hoses. If they break, crack or leak, you engine will run poorly due to it running lean from an intake air leak.

-Get the "cold climate" version. This has a rubber jacket on the CCV and extra insulation on the hoses. This does make it a little harder to install, as you are starting with a small amount of room and will now have even less.

-Since the throttle body needs to be removed, you have easy access to the idle speed valve. (ISV) Clean it with a few q-tips and carbon cleaner. You can reuse the TB rubber seal. Mine was in great shape and soft.

-Give yourself lots of time... This job requires lots of patience.

Good Luck.
Ok...I did a search and was able to find the cold climate version on www.bimmerspecialist.com. This is a full package with 3 hoses. you mentioned change all 4, so which one am I missing? I've attached a screenshot.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:38 AM   #17
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Mine stopped making the sound. It may be due to the A/C running all the time now.

The cooling system is quite easy to DIY as long as you have a basic set of tools and some patience. You could pay me to supervise... /jk!
Hmm....not a bad idea...if I can do this in my garage/driveway...maybe we do a meet...I pay you in beer and food Anyone else is welcome to drop by. I've missed getting the hands dirty.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:48 AM   #18
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Hmm....not a bad idea...if I can do this in my garage/driveway...maybe we do a meet...I pay you in beer and food Anyone else is welcome to drop by. I've missed getting the hands dirty.
I will make a point to coming to this let me know if this is happening.
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:19 AM   #19
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[This should help]
One day last winter I noticed a lot of blue smoke from my exhaust. I guess the CCV was frozen. Time to replace it.

I ordered the "cold climate" CCV parts and they are quite different. The all have much more insulation on them AND the CCV wears a rubber jacket:


This is one huge PITA job. I took me about 4 hours, but I also cleaned the idle speed control and the throttle body. I did not remove the intake, but one critical tool you will need is a large mirror. I used a 6" x 8" mirror from Walmart, $6.

AND to make it more difficult, the "rubber jacket" on the cold climate CCV is a very tight fit with no wiggle room. This made it very difficult to connect the upper hose. That single hose took about 45 minutes to connect. Don't try this job if you are tight for time.

None of my hoses were cracked, but I changed them all anyways. The old CCV seemed to be in OK shape and the diaphragm was not ripped.


Here is a pic of the old (non cold climate) CCV together:

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Old 06-25-2009, 05:57 PM   #20
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Going to pull the trigger on the CCV install. Most parts (cold climate version) I ordered online, but one part is out of stock, so I'll go to the dealer for that.

Max_VQ: I've seen your posts on other sites for the CCV. I may need to ask you a few questions when I get this going. I hope I get the parts before the holiday and do the install end of next week. Oh, I'll also do the ISV cleaning too.

Cooling system will have to wait until end of summer (unless it blows before that )
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:30 AM   #21
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Could if be heat pump runs for a min. then shuts off, My car does that in the morrning and sound horrible sometimes.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:14 PM   #22
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Parm: Heat pump...where is this item located and is it belt driven?

As for the CCV...I received the parts...but that last part I picked up at the dealer was the wrong part...so I have 2 of the same...so mad as I had it circled but referred to the wrong part #...have to go back on Thursday and then I start the install.

Max_VQ: Thanks for the pics as reference.

I will post pics if possible.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:25 AM   #23
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Parm: Heat pump...where is this item located and is it belt driven?

As for the CCV...I received the parts...but that last part I picked up at the dealer was the wrong part...so I have 2 of the same...so mad as I had it circled but referred to the wrong part #...have to go back on Thursday and then I start the install.

Max_VQ: Thanks for the pics as reference.

I will post pics if possible.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:34 PM   #24
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Got the right part from the dealer today...but had to help the boss with his kid's computer...then beers after...so I was only able to do the "Final Stage Unit" fix that I've been meaning to do lately b/c my fan kept going on/off when the car was parked...what a pain to get into right position to get that thing out...20 mins....but my back is still killing...I'll see if I can get the CCV thing going tomorrow...
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:04 AM   #25
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CCV going to be changed this week - Finally!

Hey guys,

Sorry, I've been outta commission with my back for like 2 months. Now back from vacation, so I'm ready to finally do the CCV swap on Friday at my buddy's shop. He is going to fix the valve cover gasket and I'll be doing the CCV change. I'll also drain tranny and cooling fluids while I'm at it.

One question:

I came across this site, and the dealer recommended changing the "Distribution Piece" when doing the CCV.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...1#post16590164

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...79&hg=11&fg=40
(part # 5)

Should I bother changing this too? Web site has it out of stock, so I'll have to get it from dealer.

As for the engine noise issue - it was crazy loud when I came back from vacation - for like 2 minutes. I should have gotten out and raised the hood. Now that the weather is so humid - nothing!

The rad swap will have to wait too. I'll create a new thread when I'm ready.

Thanks guys!
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:55 AM   #26
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Secondary air pump on the my e39 m5 is located passenger front wheel well behind bumper. Mine was sounding bad like a seizing bearing eventually it did. Swaped with used one, lubed it up and all is silent when running. This Pumps warm air in to the exhaust to speed up heating of the cats. When mine wasn't working,
In the morrning my car blew out black smoke (unburnt fuel) untill the cats warmed up. Did you notice this in you car?

http://bimmer.roadfly.com/bmw/forums/e39/8238717-1.html
I used this site on how to change it my self.

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Old 08-30-2009, 01:00 PM   #27
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Parm...didn't know about this...but will bookmark for future reference. I do not have black smoke coming out of the exhaust. The part must be original b/c the dealership replaced a bunch of other stuff under warranty but not this. Eventually the sound will have to get worse and more constant. It's been like 2 years now!

Oh...and I just passed emissions yesterday. Could not believe how low the readings were (just barely registered), but of course that was at operating temp. Still wondering why gov't is picking on Auto sector and not others?

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Old 09-07-2009, 08:50 PM   #28
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CCV finally done!

Boys...took me longer than 4 hours...and over 2 days (I couldn't find where to plug 1 connector)...but it's finally done! Now I completely destroyed my back doing it - next time I'll just get my buddy to fix the car...but it did feel good working on it. I replaced all 4 hosed and the CCV unit with the winter versions. I read the BMW bulletin on this and it also recommends the dipstick be changed - dealer wanted $450 for the newly designed unit and 200 for the distribution piece - no way...and unable to source one from US...so I just took it out and was about to clean it...but found it was in excellent shape...was able to blow air through it without any restrictions.

I was a little scared turning the car on...but no codes came up...so I assume I plugged everything where it's suppose to go.

Next are the thrust arms (waiting at purolator office). I'm holding off on the tranny and coolant flush as my buddy checked and said everything looks good. As for the rad...probably next year...I'll put the call out to Max_VQ and the rest of the boys for a meet. As for this engine bay noise...well...it will get worse.

Thanks again for the input!

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Old 09-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #29
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Off topic a bit, but did dealer charge you for any of that work? I am asuming it was all done under cerified series warranty since the original comprehensive one is done while ago.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:19 PM   #30
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Everything was covered under the CPO warranty, just paid $50 deductible each time. After they hit my rear bumper with another car, I had these charges reversed as part of my reimbursement that we settled on. I was impressed that basically 80% of the stuff is still under warranty as you always hear about a repair that does not qualify under warranty.

Now I just take the car to my buddy.
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