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Old 06-08-2009, 01:06 PM   #1
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M-Sport vs ZHP

Can somebody explain the difference since I'm not sure if I've got it down pat? So far all I know is that the M-Sport comes with a Mtech II body kit along with some interior enhancements.

The ZHP comes with all the performance upgrades (cams, flywheel, s/w for 10hp), short throw shifter, firmer suspension and stiffer sway bars and quicker steering ratio etc.

Also is there anyway to differentiate the m-sport from the ZHP on autotrader? All of the cars seem to be called M-sport. I did notice one that was called M-performance. Would that be a ZHP? If that's the case the then the only way to determine it would be to take a ride to the seller's location. Which is a nuisance if I am in T.O. and the car is in Kingston e.g.. I mean I don't want to get there only to find out that it's a M-sport.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:14 PM   #2
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zhp has a different exhaust with actual polished metal tips, whereas on a regular 330 the tips are black colored, and if polished they are just tips and are bigger than the zhp ones.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:22 PM   #3
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I did notice one that was called M-performance. Would that be a ZHP?
In Canada, the ZHP (which is just an option code on the US order sheet) is called the M-Performance Package.

Read this thread too.

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116547
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I should take a detailed picture of my exhaust on my ZHP for you so you can distinguish the difference between "M Performance" aka ZHP and "M-sport" package.

Are you looking at a coupe or sedan?

The ZHP package for me was worth the extra money. The changes may seem slight on paper but It was a night and day difference for driving experience compared to the regular 330ci in all reality.
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I am looking for a sedan even though I can't find one so for now I'm just educating myself with the coupes. I don't want a coupe since it's more expensive to purchase AND to insure. Besides this 325i is my first sedan and I am enjoying having a 2nd pair of doors.
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In Canada, the ZHP (which is just an option code on the US order sheet) is called the M-Performance Package.

Read this thread too.

http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116547
I read that. But what I find confusing is that there is a sport package and there is an M-sport package. What's the difference? I almost bought a '03 330i with sport package but it wasn't an M-sport model. So M-performace = ZHP, correct? Glad we've established that.
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I read that. But what I find confusing is that there is a sport package and there is an M-sport package. What's the difference? I almost bought a '03 330i with sport package but it wasn't an M-sport model. So M-performace = ZHP, correct? Glad we've established that.
M-Sport is basically the cosmetic items from the M-Performance option package. The regular sports package doesn't come with the M-Tech bumper, the M3 steering wheel etc. There are other differences.

This is mostly covered in the BMW E46 Wiki (google it).
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zhp has a different exhaust with actual polished metal tips, whereas on a regular 330 the tips are black colored, and if polished they are just tips and are bigger than the zhp ones.
You sure about that?
My basically stock 2001 330i has chrome / polished exhaust tips.
I think all 330's have this but the 325's and 320's will have the black tips.
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the only way to visually depict a zhp(m-perf.) from an m-sport is by looking at the interior and seeing if it has the alcantara(looks like grey suede) wheel, shift and handbrake boots.
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^ Or the increased redline and red gauge needles
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^ Or the increased redline and red gauge needles
we dont have the red needles in canada, nor can you tell by the guage face that it has an increased redline
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the only way to visually depict a zhp(m-perf.) from an m-sport is by looking at the interior and seeing if it has the alcantara(looks like grey suede) wheel, shift and handbrake boots.
M-Sport can also come with those things.
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I read that. But what I find confusing is that there is a sport package and there is an M-sport package. What's the difference? I almost bought a '03 330i with sport package but it wasn't an M-sport model. So M-performace = ZHP, correct? Glad we've established that.
Hi Xlash,

Here you go .....

Sport Package for Year 2002 and 2003
  • 17" Star Spoke Allow Wheels - Style 96
  • Sports Seats
  • Sport Suspension - Level I

M-Sport Package for Year 2002 and 2003
  • Sport Suspension - Level II
  • Sport Seats
  • M-Multi-Function Leather Sport Steering wheel - thicker than regular steering wheel.
  • M Aerodynamic Package
  • High Gloss Shadow Line
  • Black Aluminum Cube Trim
  • Anthracite Roof Liner
  • 17" M-Parallel spoke wheels - Style 68M (upgrade option to 18" M V-Spoke - Style 72M
  • More rigid forward bushings (metal ball joints on the front control arms)
  • Clear indicator lenses (front and rear tail lights)
  • Starting in 2003, M-Sport package came with short shifter on manual transmission, silver aluminum cube trim instead of black.


Here are how chrome tips on M-Sport package looks like
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=246180


M-Sport Suspension (ie., Sport Suspension Level II) - the same as on "M-Performance Edition model" & ZHP in US.
  • Firmer springs (front +6%, rear +8%)
  • Firmer shocks (Jounce: front +50%, rear +20%),
  • (Rebound: front +35%, rear -8%) )
  • Larger diameter anti-roll bars: 23.5 mm front (v. 23.0), 18.5 mm rear (v. 18.0)
  • More rigid forward bushings / stronger front control arms due to steel ball joints.
  • Lower ride height by 15 mm (utilizing shorter auxiliary springs)


Why confusion ?
"M-Sport package" is a package just like Premium or Sport that you could have added to 325 or 330 models.
"M-Performance Edition" was not a package but rather treated as another / separate model. Meaning, for Year 2004 there were 325, 330 and "330 M-Performance Edition" models.

In Canada (and UK), M-Sport package was available starting in Year 2002, and M-Performence Edition became available in late Year 2003 / 2004 model year.

In US, they never had M-Sport package. They got ZHP (same as Canadian "M-Performance Edition") for Year 2004 model year.


How to tell apart?
As in previous posts, two visual cues:

1) M-Sport has a leather steering wheel vs Alcantra steering wheel on M-Performance Edition.
2) M-Sport has chrome exhaust tips vs stainless steel


Biggest technical difference between M-Sport and M-Performance Edition?

> 3.07:1 Final drive ratio on M-Performance Edition (instead of 2.91:1 on M-Sport and other 330s). This is what gives you quicker off-line acceleration vs normal 330s. Extra 10HP & 8 ft/lb of torque increase are mainly marketing things; they dont really translate into any noticeable real life performance improvements, on a E46 car weight.


Good luck.


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Old 06-08-2009, 11:04 PM   #14
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You can also narrow it down by model year. The ZHP (M-Perf.) cars were 2004 on in Canada, IIRC. And I also thought that those cars were the only ones to get the 'cube' (black or silver) interior trim, and style 135M wheels, but I could be wrong.
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Thanks Alex, very informative post. I wonder if the price difference between a 330i and a 330i m-performace is justified. I mean it's almost in the same echelon as similar year M3's.
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