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Old 02-14-2009, 02:57 PM   #1
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Arrow Ont: No warrant needed to trace Internet use!



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hey did we just lose some of our rights to Privacy?

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TORONTO, Feb. 13 (UPI) -- A judge in Canada has ruled that Internet users have no expectation of privacy and police can use track people through Internet protocols without warrants.

The ruling by Ontario Superior Court Judge Lynne Leitch is binding on lower courts, and gives law enforcement a new tool to use in investigating such matters as child pornography, the National Post reported Friday.

Ruling in a child pornography possession case, Leitch found that the Canadian Charter does not provide a "reasonable expectation of privacy" regarding subscriber information retained by Internet service providers.

Police asked Bell Canada in 2007 for subscriber information on an IP address used by someone who had allegedly accessed child pornography. Bell provided the requested information without inquiring whether police had a search warrant.

The defense argued that police should have been required to obtain a search warrant before seeking such information.

Privacy rights advocates cautioned the ruling could have consequences for law-abiding Internet users, the Post said.

"There is no confidentiality left on the Internet if this ruling stands," James Stribopoulos, a law professor at York University's Osgoode Hall Law School, said.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/02/...6131234587554/
I didn't see this online in any local news, any1?
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Old 02-14-2009, 03:22 PM   #2
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Bullshit.
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:12 PM   #3
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I saw something about it on tv, except I thought they said that they still need a warrant.. I may be wrong!
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:46 PM   #4
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I saw something about it on tv, except I thought they said that they still need a warrant.. I may be wrong!
ya the article is there man

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Feb. 13 .

The ruling by Ontario Superior Court Judge Lynne Leitch is binding on lower courts, and gives law enforcement a new tool to use in investigating
seems straight forward ~ cops b reading our emails!
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Old 02-14-2009, 06:44 PM   #5
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I could care less, im only on forex forums, and car forums and checking my email.. i hope they dont have a problem with my movie torrents.

Other then that, i masturbate to my imagination.
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:02 PM   #6
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I could care less, im only on forex forums, and car forums and checking my email.. i hope they dont have a problem with my movie torrents.

Other then that, i masturbate to my imagination.

dammit you've outed my secret agenda!

see kids bmdoubleya's Bro here needs to whack it to at least 2 hours of hard core jap & beasteality porn to do it for me.

im not even sure if even half of it is legal! my current routine lately always starts out with 2girls 1 cup
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:38 PM   #7
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I don't see it as a loss of rights - As it stands right now, if a cop see's something in plain sight, he's allowed to use it as admissable in court. IP is the same - if you don't take an effort to block it, it's readily available to see for someone who knows how to...

Besides which, child porn isn't my thing, so I think I'm safe. There's no way they have the time, bandwidth, resources, etc to track music downloaders!

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Old 02-14-2009, 08:51 PM   #8
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Exacty they will look at you if you stand out.

Just like driving a bmw draws cops attention.
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haha, what if you steal wireless signals from your neighbours and you REALLY hate them...
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What's next, phones? That's BS.
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:10 PM   #12
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haha, what if you steal wireless signals from your neighbours and you REALLY hate them...
LOL, then u can do whateva u want
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Ontario is getting worse and worse.
Move to Quebec then...
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Old 02-15-2009, 04:12 PM   #14
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What's next, phones? That's BS.
You're not understanding the ruling. You are NOT using a secure, private network. It's the internet - it's free and open - everything is in the open, ANYONE can track ANYONE with the right knowledge.

Phones are MUCH different - they have ALWAYS required warrants for that.
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You're not understanding the ruling. You are NOT using a secure, private network. It's the internet - it's free and open - everything is in the open, ANYONE can track ANYONE with the right knowledge.

Phones are MUCH different - they have ALWAYS required warrants for that.
No, cops get IP, anyone can get that, and then they need ISP to release NAME/ADDRESS behind that IP so they know who's behind it.

So it's like you knowing a phone number and then requesting name/address of who is using it.

PS. They have always required warrants for releasing name behind IP..until now. Then again I think someone will strike down this ruling.
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