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Old 02-13-2009, 02:04 AM   #31
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I think he is being credited with bangle butt because he designed Z9 concept, but then again I couldn't find any proof that he did and it looks really close to E63. I think I'm going to email BMW to find out..


Now on those so called "Bangle" cars. Everybody loves to hate them, but look at the current S class, look at the trunk, look at the interior, look at the iDrive-like system. To me it sounds like Bangle knew what he was doing.
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Yeah Bangle knew what he was doing, that's what I think too. It's just hart do say "Hooydonk Butt", so "Bangle Butt" is more fitting.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:19 PM   #32
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So... Bangle is leaving... GOOD!!!!!!! I might start considering buying another bimmer. I was waiting for him to leave as I never really liked the "awkward" design and more specifically "intentional lack of good taste" in use during his era. There is something very deliberate and aggressive about the approach (which might really look original at first)... but after a while it only looks like a big ploy to get visibility and reactions from the public (good or bad publicity is good). I am sorry, I must say that I was disapointed too many times by his work and I can't get passed the atrocious 6 series (not designed by him apparently)... Of course, parts of a car here and there can look very good, but why not trying to make all of those part fit together? There is just no sense of a "holistic approach"... In a way, he did great for the marketing of the brand and I am willing to recognize that. I also like some of it and never thought of leaving the brand, but, in my opinion, none of the designs that came after the e46 under his era have all the elements needed to become a universal "classic". I am sure that he is not the only one responsible for what happened (and I love my e46 which was designed by him???) Well... if the guy who designed the actual 6 series replaces him, I am not so sure this is a good thing in the end...

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Old 02-25-2009, 10:14 PM   #33
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This is probably why he left

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090205....over-project-i


An explanation for the resignation of Chris Bangle from BMW has appeared on the Internet. Information gathered from the BMWblog.com points to a difference of opinion regarding the design direction of Project i. Project i which has been given the go-ahead by the BMW board of directors, is about "new car and mobility concepts" meant to explore transportation solutions for the biggest cities. This important project is still in its infancy in motor industry terms but the infancy stage is when things design-related get created, discussed and approved. It seems Bangle had a clash of ideas with BMW CEO Dr Norbert Reithofer, Chief of Research & Development Dr Klaus Draeger and his own protégé Adrian van Hooydonk in as far as Project i was concerned.

The clash was about whether Project i would fall under one of the three existing BMW brands (excluding Motorrad and M) or be serviced under a brand new label. Each of these brands - BMW, MINI and Rolls Royce has its own design language. Bangle then decided to fall on his sword rather than take responsibility for a design strategy he did not approve.

The BMW board tried to convince him to stay, even offered him other positions at BMW. One of these positions was that of Design Director at Designworks USA where van Hooydonk once plied his trade. All this was in vain. He had made up his mind to leave. However he will still work with BMW in his new personal design initiative.

A new era of design has now been ushered at BMW in which final direction will come from Adrian van Hooydonk. Because lead times are counted in years, van Hooydonk's style will only be seen in the next 6 or 7 years time. But his concepts like the CS Concept can already be appreciated.




This is for people who think "Bangle" ruined BMW

And just to throw this out there..."Chris Bangle Didn't Do It! No, Seriously!"

He wasn't directly responsible for most of the designs he gets made fun of for. Here's a list of who designed the exteriors of a lot of recent BMWs...

* Joji Nagashima: E90/E91 3 series, E36 3 series, E36/7 Z3, E39 5 series
* Adrian van Hooydonk: E63/E64 6 series, E65/E66 7 series, Z9 GT Concept, Z9 Convertible Concept, MINI ACV30 Concept ... (now Head of Design BMW Automobile)
* Geoff Velasco: E83 X3
* Anders Warming: E85 Z4 roadster, GINA Light Concept, Mille Miglia 2006 Coupe Concept ... (now Head of Exterior design BMW Automobile)
* Chris Chapman: E87/E81 1 series hatchback, E53 X5, X-coupe Concept, CS1 Concept ... (now Head of Automotive Design @ BMW Group DesignworksUSA)
* Erik Goplen: E46 3 series
* Davide Arcangeli: E60/E61 5 series
* Tomasz Sycha: E86 Z4 Coupe
* Marc Michael Markefka: E92/E93 3-series coupe & cabrio, E82/E88 1-series coupe & cabrio
* Pierre Leclercq: E70 X5, X71/E72 X6
* Karim Antoine Habib: CS Concept, F01/F02 7-series, *** "new 8-series" (project "GranTurismo")
* Juliane Blasi: E89 Z4 roadster ... yes, it's a woman
* Jacek Froehlich: F10 / F11 5-series

* Mark Djordjevic: RR Phantom family (Phantom, Drophead Copue, Coupe)
* Frank Stephenson: R50-R53 MINI Mk1
* Marcus Syring: R55-R58 (R60?) MINI Mk2

Note that Bangle is nowhere to be found here (though of course he had a role in them)...and it was van Hooydonk who brought us the 'infamous' E65/66 7 Series and E63 6 Series.

Hopefully BMW will go in a better direction now.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:01 AM   #34
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Thank you for providing such detailed information. It is really appreciated. I understand that Bangle wasn't directly responsible for many of those recent designs. It would be interesting to know how much freedom these designers had under his guidance...
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:42 PM   #35
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Youre welcome.

I think this needs to be said. Bangle has gained my utmost respect.

people who dont bend over and be puppets for money i have respect for, especially in these economic times
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