 |
01-25-2009, 02:03 AM
|
#1
|
|
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Barrie
Posts: 226
Car: 325IS
|
anyone have a Euro S50B32 in their E36?
How hard is the swap? where to source the motor? will it pass the emission test?
|
|
|
01-25-2009, 12:07 PM
|
#2
|
|
Propeller Head
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 282
Car: E36 M3
|
Easy
Easy swap if you have an OBD1 car (92-95) and don't mind swapping the gearbox, driveshaft, cooling system, DME, and wiring harness, and accessories. You may also need the instrument cluster, but I'm not sure.
The main obstacle to this swap is finding an S50B32 motor in good shape for less than $7500, plus the cost of installation.
There are lots of turbo and supercharger kits out there that you can buy used for $2500-3500, and a tubo'd E36 (even a 325i) will be faster than a Euro S50B32. This might be a better option. If you do the install right, and take the proper precautions, it will also be just as reliable.
An AA or Dinan supercharged S52-powered E36 puts out about 400 hp (at 8 psi) and there's lots of room to grow. That will translate into a 4.5-4.8 second 0-60 time and mid 13s in the quarter.
Just sayin it's an option.
__________________
Jarrod
'97 M3
SOLD- Now Enjoying Honda Civic
|
|
|
01-26-2009, 12:27 PM
|
#3
|
|
6th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Niagara Region
Posts: 1,794
Car: 93 325Is, 95 Superch
|
Install a supercharger less headaches and more power.
|
|
|
01-26-2009, 12:31 PM
|
#4
|
|
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montreal, Qc
Posts: 95
Car: 98 328is / Volvo S90
|
I don't think it's worth putting that engine in. Here is a link where you can buy the engine from:
http://store.bimmerworld.com/shared/...t=products.asp
|
|
|
01-26-2009, 01:23 PM
|
#5
|
|
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: whitby
Posts: 669
Car: 2 e36's
|
pm user name; kruler on this forum. He swapped an s50b32 in his 328is and i think he has another euro motor for sale that he was selling a couple months back.
__________________
|
|
|
01-26-2009, 07:11 PM
|
#6
|
|
6th Gear Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,055
Car: '95 325is & '06 S4
|
I like the idea of the euro engine instead of a sc kit - it's the engine the car was meant to have...
|
|
|
02-18-2009, 03:26 PM
|
#8
|
|
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: OAKVILLE
Posts: 776
Car: 98 332is (S50B32)
|
all euro M3 engines are S50's, not S52
I did the swap on my 98 328is, WELL worth it if you can source a good engine and do the swap yourself. The car pulls harder than E46 M3. Forced induction can't touch it in terms of powerband and reliability.
To the person who posted that it is an easier swap into an OBD1 car, this is incorrect. Have fun wiring EWSII into your OBD1 car. My swap was plug n' play other than re-alignment.
You will need to change: exhaust (motor back), radiator (highly recommended), clutch (if non-M).
Any 6 zyl tranny, driveshaft, diff will work. Try to get a LHD engine as you'll have many less headaches.
All that said, I did the entire swap in my garage with a mastercraft socket set.
If anyone has a serious need for an S50B32, I will bring them in on a per order basis with a deposit.
|
|
|
02-18-2009, 09:08 PM
|
#9
|
|
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto/Calgary
Posts: 1,908
Car: goes pssssh
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kruler
all euro M3 engines are S50's, not S52
I did the swap on my 98 328is, WELL worth it if you can source a good engine and do the swap yourself. The car pulls harder than E46 M3. Forced induction can't touch it in terms of powerband and reliability.
To the person who posted that it is an easier swap into an OBD1 car, this is incorrect. Have fun wiring EWSII into your OBD1 car. My swap was plug n' play other than re-alignment.
You will need to change: exhaust (motor back), radiator (highly recommended), clutch (if non-M). Any 6 zyl tranny, driveshaft, diff will work. Try to get a LHD engine as you'll have many less headaches.
All that said, I did the entire swap in my garage with a mastercraft socket set.
If anyone has a serious need for an S50B32, I will bring them in on a per order basis with a deposit.
|
pulls harder then an E46 M3 eh? wow.
|
|
|
02-19-2009, 01:18 PM
|
#10
|
|
6th Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 1,802
Car: 2007 328XiT
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TNation
pulls harder then an E46 M3 eh? wow.
|
Well, almsot the same power (321 vs 333) and less weight = super duper
__________________
2007 BMW 328Xi Touring, 6 speed
|
|
|
02-21-2009, 02:27 PM
|
#11
|
|
6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 1,467
Car: 1996 328is
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kruler
all euro M3 engines are S50's, not S52
I did the swap on my 98 328is, WELL worth it if you can source a good engine and do the swap yourself. The car pulls harder than E46 M3. Forced induction can't touch it in terms of powerband and reliability.
To the person who posted that it is an easier swap into an OBD1 car, this is incorrect. Have fun wiring EWSII into your OBD1 car. My swap was plug n' play other than re-alignment.
You will need to change: exhaust (motor back), radiator (highly recommended), clutch (if non-M).
Any 6 zyl tranny, driveshaft, diff will work. Try to get a LHD engine as you'll have many less headaches.
All that said, I did the entire swap in my garage with a mastercraft socket set.
If anyone has a serious need for an S50B32, I will bring them in on a per order basis with a deposit.
|
How much can you get an s50b32 for?
__________________
2012 Mercedes-Benz C250 Coupe-PRESENT
1996 BMW 328is- SOLD
1998 Mercedes-Benz E430- SOLD
1990 Ford Probe Turbo- SOLD
|
|
|
02-22-2009, 11:57 AM
|
#12
|
|
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Victoria
Posts: 73
Car: S50B32 M3
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss17
How much can you get an s50b32 for?
|
$6000 is a starting price, then you have to buy the cats and muffler ($800). Plan on spending around $2000 for small parts and I highly recommend the larger core euro radiator and oil cooler ($500).
I am not a mechanic so I spent an additional $2000 for the swap.
|
|
|
02-22-2009, 02:02 PM
|
#13
|
|
6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 1,467
Car: 1996 328is
|
So realistically, when it's all said and done, one should expect to pay about $9000-$10,000 installed? Damn that's steep. You might as well sell your E36, add that $10k, go to the states and pick up an E46 M3 (They go for as low at $15k in the states).
Although having an E36 with an S50B32 would be very very nice. I could only imagine how nicely it must pull.
__________________
2012 Mercedes-Benz C250 Coupe-PRESENT
1996 BMW 328is- SOLD
1998 Mercedes-Benz E430- SOLD
1990 Ford Probe Turbo- SOLD
|
|
|
02-22-2009, 05:49 PM
|
#14
|
|
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: OAKVILLE
Posts: 776
Car: 98 332is (S50B32)
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss17
How much can you get an s50b32 for?
|
didn't you kick my tires about one last summer?
|
|
|
02-22-2009, 06:06 PM
|
#15
|
|
6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 1,467
Car: 1996 328is
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kruler
didn't you kick my tires about one last summer?
|
kick your tires? you mean inquired about how much you were asking? Yes I asked how much you were looking to get for the S50B32 and the price discouraged me from even going that route.
__________________
2012 Mercedes-Benz C250 Coupe-PRESENT
1996 BMW 328is- SOLD
1998 Mercedes-Benz E430- SOLD
1990 Ford Probe Turbo- SOLD
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:12 PM.
|