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Old 01-13-2009, 08:41 PM   #16
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If you are keeping your car and you really care about it and know that you wont get sick of it, its worth every penny. 7-8 grand sounds like a reasonable amount for the work you want.

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Old 01-13-2009, 09:05 PM   #17
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I would say sell the car and save more money to go for a e46 m3 ..but that's just me..6G for paint ...umm....if you drive it every day and in winter too, DON'T DO IT!
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:47 PM   #18
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I would say sell the car and save more money to go for a e46 m3 ..but that's just me..6G for paint ...umm....if you drive it every day and in winter too, DON'T DO IT!
It's not a daily driver (at least not anymore) It's been parked for about a month and a half now. Now that i have my beater/DD Audi 90. The vert will only be out and about on those clear blue beautiful nights And sunshineing days. I love cruising at night with it, top down cool breeze I cant wait!

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Old 01-14-2009, 12:22 AM   #19
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When I was going to get my truck painted I got quoted 6 grand, and I was willing to pay it for a truck worth less than 2 grand. Because it was something I always wanted to do.

Try and pay as much as you are comfertable with (within reason) and just make sure to research the shop. Keeping in mind that in your case (with the rust repair and what not) anything under 3k probably won't get you the results you need/want.

Alternatively you could make a project out of it and DIY it properly (rent a booth/gun/etc
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:29 AM   #20
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Here is some advice as it is done when restorations are done:
1. take the car to the bodyshop - have it stripped, have rust/body repaired, have it primed (use primer to be compatible with already selected paint)
2. wait 3-6 months with the car in primer for any problems to show - rust will eat through during that time if not taken care of.
3. take the car back to have it painted
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:31 AM   #21
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^^ this is the worst idea to do !

The paint itself and the clear are part of the protection. You cannot keep just the primer on because it's too soft and don't offer proper protection. The primer offer the best protection under it not over it.

It's sad that you stay (or i stay) so far because i have my own bodyshop. With the amount of work you want to do, i would stay away of anything under 4500$ but 8 gran is a little over the top i think.

The removing off everything is part of the job and if someone tells you the other way, run away from them ! like the reparation of the rust (it's the purpose of painting the car !)

Finaly, the only modification you want to do is rolling your fender. This you have to take a shop that is confortable with that since "normal" bodyshop don't do this and are not equip for it. Or you can take your car to a place to roll your fender and do the rest of the bodywork elwere if you want. Either of the shop are not oblige to know that you will do some work elsewere ...

hope that help a bit.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:00 AM   #22
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Since this is a convertible (No roof to paint) I really wouldn't spend more that $3000-$3500 on a paint job. $6K or more, I would just buy a newer car (E46).

The rust repair, or the amount of it, is really what will define the final range. Cutting and putting new metal is the only way to fix it, but it's still no guarantee. No one will provide an absolute guarantee on rust repair.

The best thing you can do is, look at cars that were recently painted. This will clearly indicate what their work is like. Telling them what you “expect” and won’t pay until you’re happy will most likely flag you as a difficult customer, and they may not want to work with you.

The bodyshop I use, for $3500 would do a job that is 95%-98% of that of European Body Shop for example, which is probably in the $6000.00 range. It wouldn’t be worth it for me to spend the extra $$$ on an older car.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:02 AM   #23
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Here is some advice as it is done when restorations are done:
1. take the car to the bodyshop - have it stripped, have rust/body repaired, have it primed (use primer to be compatible with already selected paint)
2. wait 3-6 months with the car in primer for any problems to show - rust will eat through during that time if not taken care of.
3. take the car back to have it painted
Leaving the car in primer is really bad. It will rust for sure.
I wouldn't do it.

Just fix the rust the first time. Acid dip it, or media blast it.
Then seal the car properly and paint it.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:26 AM   #24
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spoony_prelude,

i know a great body shop that does great work. they worked on my m3 fixing a bit of rust on my rocker and did a great job. i inquired about a full paint job and they quoted me at $2800. this includes taking everything window out, every light off and soo on. if you are interested pm me.

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Old 01-14-2009, 01:40 PM   #25
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Spoony,

Do your own prep work. Find a shop you can work with. All you really need is someone who can lay paint well. If you take everything off, tape everything off, you can drop the price of a paintjob at least 1000$. It is possible to get an OK paint job for under 2K if you put in 50 hours of your own work prepping the car.

Once the car is done, especially if the painter wasn't perfect, expect to spend lots of time polishing the clear on the car to get the shine.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:11 PM   #26
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This is a really difficult situation to be in, one I am similarly in.
I DD My M5 from April until End of October. That mean ~7 months of road debris, rock chips, parking lot dings, etc. My car does require a few touch ups here and there, ones I am thinking of getting repaired instead of dumping about 3K on a paintjob, becuase I know, the first few scrapes and bruises will make me want to kill someone.
Think about it this way.
How does your paint shine up now? How badly worn is the paint?
Mine(gloss black) shines unbelievably, but it needs a professional to spend a few hours with a buffer to get it looking mint.
So what will I be doing? Get the areas in need of repair, repaired, take it to a detailer and have him do the whole car properly(clay, cut, polish). Total cost will be aboit 8-900$ and I can guarantee you for about 90% of the population(inlcuding myself), it will be as if I had it just repainted, without having to worry about the next chip in the paint, thanks to some idiot who doesn't know how to merge and ends up in the emergency shoulder, spewing crap everywhere.

Something to consider, but I would definitely, at the very least, get the rusty areas patched. That shouldn't cost more than a few hundred.
On that note, I am getting some preventative/needed maintenance done before the car comes out on the road, and that will take a huge chunk of the money for "fun stuff" out of the budget. It is uncertain times, so careful how you spend your hard earned dineros.
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:34 PM   #27
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Thanks for all the responses guys! your opinions and suggestions are really helping out!!!

now for the replies. lol

dtthiaga: whats the name of the body shop you deal with? Quality of work?

hellrot M3: Thanks for the suggestion man but for 2800 they must be cheaping out at some stage, wheather its in the materials (paint, body filler...etc) or in prepping costs but for the job i want i know thats way to low of a price.

Propr'one: Although i think it would be fun as hell and i really would enjoy doing the work on my car (I did all the work on my e30 and a little on the e36) I'm kind of reluctant to attack the body of the car. I was the car to be done perfectly and i would rather have someone with lots of experience doing the work.

bmwm5Lover: See heres the deal Terry. I went to racing trends (max member) during the summer and we spent about 2 hours polishing the car with the high speed buffer he has, and the car came out spectacular! The next day I passed by tims and a guys i know there who works at his father body shop, stood up and asked a few of my friends if i had painted my car. So from 10ft away the car is perfect. But i have a lot of small stone chips. rust starting on the 1/4 panels. small spots here and there that I really want to take care of! So polishing the car just wont cut it!

Thanks again guys
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:18 PM   #28
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Based on what you said about the buff up making the paint look nearly new, how much effort would it take to touch up? If it really polishes up nice, I'd say spend a fraction of the money and get the chips filled, get the rust taken care of, and blend the sucker. Gloss black is easier to blend than a lot of other colours... but then again, it's a matter of the paint's condition over the entire body. If it was jsut the nose and 1/4s that needed work, it's a more viable option... if it's all over the whole car, might as well jsut paint the sucker. Just my opinion though...

Good luck finding a good place, a good paint job makes all the difference in the world! Make sure they take the time and care... take steps to prevent orange peel, if the shop is willing... when my e30 was painted, the shop wetsanded the whole car, primed it, and then sanded again and buffed it before paining... the primer was shiny! The end result was much nicer than any stock car, very very little orange peel. But time is money, so let your wallet decide.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:07 PM   #29
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if you don't plan on keeping the car, don't spend that much money on the paintjob.
Sell your vert, take that money and the other $6K that you were about to spend and maybe some extra $$$ and then buy a clean/mint one!
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:27 AM   #30
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You get what you paid for. Is the only answer to this thread.
well said.

carstar for my e30 wanted $5000 to repair a little rust in on each rocker panel, complete removal of all windows, trim, etc. then paint.
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