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Old 01-11-2009, 07:43 PM   #1
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Oakville: before buying inspection

I've found a car, 528 2.8L, everything seems more or less ok, except some noise in front suspension (probably it were stabiliser bars, don't know exactly how they are called). And there is some oil on the right side of the engine. Almost all of 5xx that I've seen have some oil on the engine. Unfortunately, there are no perfect cars in my budget range.

So, I need a mechanic in Oakwille to check everything. The guy who is selling the car works in a local bmw dealership, so the car can be checked at official dealrship... But it will be not completely independent inspection.
If anybody know mechanic in Oakwille (or somewhere nearby, even in Mississauga ) to make "before buying inspection", please recommend!

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Old 01-11-2009, 11:06 PM   #2
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I've found a car, 528 2.8L, everything seems more or less ok, except some noise in front suspension (probably it were stabiliser bars, don't know exactly how they are called). And there is some oil on the right side of the engine. Almost all of 5xx that I've seen have some oil on the engine. Unfortunately, there are no perfect cars in my budget range.

So, I need a mechanic in Oakwille to check everything. The guy who is selling the car works in a local bmw dealership, so the car can be checked at official dealrship... But it will be not completely independent inspection.
If anybody know mechanic in Oakwille (or somewhere nearby, even in Mississauga ) to make "before buying inspection", please recommend!

Thanks,
Roman
Check Cross Avenue Auto, you can ask even ask the seller to have it safetied and etested there.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:08 PM   #3
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:09 PM   #4
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call Sam at Cross Ave. Auto
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:11 PM   #5
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Check Cross Avenue Auto, you can ask even ask the seller to have it safetied and etested there.
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The seller said e-test and safety is not a problem...
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:17 AM   #6
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The seller said e-test and safety is not a problem...
Yes, but you still need it for registration purposes.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:19 AM   #7
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Yes, but you still need it for registration purposes.
What does the whole process look like?
He-he, this will be my first car in ON
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:37 AM   #8
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:07 AM   #9
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I would do the following, in the order I suggest.

A) Call your insurance company. Make sure you can afford the insurance.
Don't buy a car without doing this first!!!!

B) Drive the car thoroughly. Highway, City. Pull into driveways (normally) to check for any rattles in the front end etc. Drive over railway tracks at normal speeds and listen for weird noises if any. If the car is not insured, I usually don’t bother. Most insurance companies offer 30days dual coverage for free. Watch for guys trying to flip cars.

C) Do a cold start. Ask the seller, that you would like to come back and start the car after it has sat over night. Before starting, make sure the engine is completely cold. Open the hood and check the rad hose, top of engine. Start the car, and make sure the temp is cold. This will give you an good indication on how the car will perform for you.

D) Ask the following questions.
- How long have you had it. Ideally, should be > 1 Year.
- Have there been any accidents you know of?
- Has anything being repainted?
- Do you have Service Records?

E) Always negotiate that the care is sold certified and e-tested. That is, the seller will get the certification done (within 30 days), and a recent e-test is done. Although it is valid for 1 year, I would never except anything over 1 month old etest. O2 Censors, Cats etc could go, and you don't want that mess.

F) After all of this, and you like the car, put a conditional offer, subject to mechanic's approval. If the seller rejects, walk way. Make sure you bill of sale indicates deposit is refundable if the mechanic finds problems that is not already disclosed.

G) After you buy the car, I would get a safety done again. A lot of shops cut corners or miss things. If another mechanic finds something wrong in terms of safety, they guy who issued it must fix it for free. It's worth the time and money.

H) Change air filter, oil change, think about changing spark plugs.

I) Enjoy your new car.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:09 AM   #10
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if has front end suspension noises & it passes safety? you better check that front end noise to be sure it's not safety related.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:47 PM   #11
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Safety inspection in Ontario is a joke...with balding tire(to a certain depth),, it will still pass inspection.

Use your own mechanic to inspect the major components.
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^ No, it needs to be 2/32's depth. No exceptions.
Some mechanics pass it.. some won't.

4/32 is what most people recommend. That is why it's always good to get a second safety by your own mechanic. Worth the extra $50.00.
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:37 PM   #13
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I would do the following, in the order I suggest.



G) After you buy the car, I would get a safety done again. A lot of shops cut corners or miss things. If another mechanic finds something wrong in terms of safety, they guy who issued it must fix it for free. It's worth the time and money.


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I may be mistaken but I don't believe the guy who issues the safety must fix any undisclosed damage for free. In theory, something could be damaged after the inspection, it even says on the safety certificate that it does not warrant the condition of the vehicle or something, that it is just supposed to be an inspection at a specific time.

It is a good idea to get another independent check done to make sure the car is 100% but I think you would have a very hard time getting a mechanic to fix things for free. Some items are also a 'judgment' item and some mechanics do try to pad bills by making you do things that don't really need to be done (not pointing fingers at all, it does happen tho).

Cross Avenue is great, never dealt with them personally but everyone I talk to says they're top notch and there are always tons of BMWs parked out front 'in line'.
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I may be mistaken but I don't believe the guy who issues the safety must fix any undisclosed damage for free. In theory, something could be damaged after the inspection, it even says on the safety certificate that it does not warrant the condition of the vehicle or something, that it is just supposed to be an inspection at a specific time.

It is a good idea to get another independent check done to make sure the car is 100% but I think you would have a very hard time getting a mechanic to fix things for free. Some items are also a 'judgment' item and some mechanics do try to pad bills by making you do things that don't really need to be done (not pointing fingers at all, it does happen tho).

Cross Avenue is great, never dealt with them personally but everyone I talk to says they're top notch and there are always tons of BMWs parked out front 'in line'.
Actually, if a car "Passes" Safety, it should pass "Safety" at another shop.

If there is an issue, especially right after the first safety, the shop will loose it's license for giving a false safety. It has to be fixed.

All you have to do is report it to the ministry, that Shop X issued a safety, when it should not have.

For example, if one of the ball joints are gone, which is a safety item, and Shop X issues a safety certificate.

Shop Y does a check the next day or two and finds the faulty ball joint, Shop X could be in trouble for it for writing the safety certificate. If you call Shop X up, they will fix it; they should. Just mention, “You issued a fake safety, I’m calling the Ministry”.

I’ve had to do this a couple of times.

My mechanics are very strict when it comes to this. It has to pass legitimately.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:14 PM   #15
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Actually, if a car "Passes" Safety, it should pass "Safety" at another shop.

If there is an issue, especially right after the first safety, the shop will loose it's license for giving a false safety. It has to be fixed.

All you have to do is report it to the ministry, that Shop X issued a safety, when it should not have.

For example, if one of the ball joints are gone, which is a safety item, and Shop X issues a safety certificate.

Shop Y does a check the next day or two and finds the faulty ball joint, Shop X could be in trouble for it for writing the safety certificate. If you call Shop X up, they will fix it; they should. Just mention, “You issued a fake safety, I’m calling the Ministry”.

I’ve had to do this a couple of times.

My mechanics are very strict when it comes to this. It has to pass legitimately.

I fully agree with you, you can whistleblow on a shop that writes a fraudulent safety but you can't get them to 'fix stuff for free' (or i would be VERY surprised for a shop to do that).
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