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Old 01-06-2009, 12:10 PM   #31
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I feel sorry for your car! .. even I go to RMP once in a while when I need things done but the car CAN cost over a $1000 per year to maintain depending on what needs to be changed.

ok .. maybe one year you dont have to change anything but lets say the next year you have to do your brakes and 2 rotors? what does the cost come out to? .. now add your oil changes for the year (I do about 45k a year and change my oil every 5-6k).

bottom line is the car isnt going to run perfect for ever.

They are properly maintained. I do what the car needs, and some preventative maintanence things as well! Whatever RMP recommends that I do, I listen and pay. Don't feel sorry, they've been very reliable, inexpensive, and enjoyable to own!

The difference here might be you do 45K a year! Thats a lot of mileage! (average driver's mileage is suposed to be 20,000-24,000KM a year) I do nowhere near that on any of My BMW's. I also have several other cars to drive too. (I'm a dealer)

And I agree with you on one thing, cars won't run perfect for ever!
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:14 PM   #32
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So lets agree to disagree, and say no matter what experiences we face, BMW is worth buying due to the Ultimate driving experience they offer.

Oh and I've had a WRX STI for a month right before I sold it to a close friend. Picked it up at Manheim for him. I wasn't bashing it at all. Nice car no doubt, fun to drive, Nothing like an E46 M3 IMO... I just enjoyed what you said in your post about how if you had 20-30K you'd buy an M3, and if you had 22K you'd buy a WRX STI. What if you found an E46 M3 for 22k? LOL decisions decisions.


and spoony, LOL. Hardly owned. I just pointed out the fact, He personally has not owned an E46 himself. He's obviously not his mom. Different people mean, different driving habbits, experiences, and different maintenance decisions.

and Pinkie, I agree, this thread is useless.

Original Poster, Buy a BMW if you can afford it! and never look back. If you like your Acura Integra GSR more after you've owned a BMW, you can always sell the BMW, and buyer another Acura GSR?
"So lets agree to disagree, and say no matter what experiences we face, BMW is worth buying due to the Ultimate driving experience they offer."
thats what I like to hear. BMW really is the ultimate driving machine which is why I want one of your cars, an e46 M3 03.5 and up, when i'm done school haha

what'd you think of the WRX STI? a little firm to drive on our roads eh. I love them though, great cars. A $22k M3? i'm not sure if i could find one mint with that price. It'd be tough to pick between that and a STI at $22k. Luckily i plan on spending more when I am done and getting an M3. Its worth the extra cash IMO.

and to the OP. why don't you drive a newer GSR and the E46 you're looking at? than write back here what you think.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:25 PM   #33
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what'd you think of the WRX STI? a little firm to drive on our roads eh. I love them though, great cars. A $22k M3? i'm not sure if i could find one mint with that price. It'd be tough to pick between that and a STI at $22k. Luckily i plan on spending more when I am done and getting an M3. Its worth the extra cash IMO.
Funny you should mention that .. I bought a brand new WRX (non STI) and was suppose to test drive a E46 car the same day (was looking for a car to buy). So I buy the WRX and went for a test drive of the BMW for shit and giggles.

The difference was night and day .. I cancelled my WRX order and bought the E46 the next day. The power was the same if not more in the E46 since I feel it throughout the RPM's. On top of that the BMW was more comfortable then the WRX.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:34 PM   #34
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Which E46? If you want comfort and civility most of the time and want to run and gun the odd time, a BMW is a great bet.

The regular WRX is a waste of money. No offense to anyone who has one. The STi is easily worth the extra funds if you can swing it.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:58 PM   #35
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Which E46? If you want comfort and civility most of the time and want to run and gun the odd time, a BMW is a great bet.

The regular WRX is a waste of money. No offense to anyone who has one. The STi is easily worth the extra funds if you can swing it.
When someone buys an E46 they want comfort and some form of civility and luxury, not a harder ride and AWD practicality like a Subaru. Subaru isn't luxury, its just a good, reliable, AWD-turbo car manufacturer.
i definitely agree. The STI is the only Subaru for the money I would get. I don't like the normal WRX.
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so back on topic... working at a bmw specialty shop maintaining an e46 will run your 1000$ yearly on average to maintain properly. I've noticed some are better than others, really luck of the draw. most common problems include, power steering lines (leaking), sway bar links, coolant reservoir (cracking), t.stat (staying closed), water pump (bearing breaks under pressure and the belt flys off). But i do have to say the interior fit and finish is like no other car (amazing), the driving quality is amazing and potential is huge.
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:36 AM   #37
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Sorry If my post came off as harsh,

I still disagree with your statement. I never took offence, nor did I mean to offend you, but wanted to clear up some things. Also point out my experience that my BMW's have proved to be more reliable than my Japanese cars. I'm sure there are many people who are afraid to buy German cars because their Japanese have proven to be perfect/low cost to maintain. Thats fine, they'll swear by japanese cars, keep buying them, and spread they are more reliable than German vehicles, and everything else. Nothing wrong with that except they are missing out on the sheer driving experience our Bmw's offer. You said it yourself, you had bad experiences with your BMW's but you haven't stopped loving the way they drove.

Overall population buys more Honda's, Acura's, Toyota's, and Lexus than BMW probably. No proof to back up my statement, but more people are happy with their purchase i guess? If just as many people bought reliable BMW's I'd love to see all those rumors and reports quickly change after experiencing how much better BMW's drive.

So lets agree to disagree, and say no matter what experiences we face, BMW is worth buying due to the Ultimate driving experience they offer.

Oh and I've had a WRX STI for a month right before I sold it to a close friend. Picked it up at Manheim for him. I wasn't bashing it at all. Nice car no doubt, fun to drive, Nothing like an E46 M3 IMO... I just enjoyed what you said in your post about how if you had 20-30K you'd buy an M3, and if you had 22K you'd buy a WRX STI. What if you found an E46 M3 for 22k? LOL decisions decisions.


and spoony, LOL. Hardly owned. I just pointed out the fact, He personally has not owned an E46 himself. He's obviously not his mom. Different people mean, different driving habbits, experiences, and different maintenance decisions.

and Pinkie, I agree, this thread is useless.

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I have to agree here. YOu gotta pitch in 5 gs for an M3.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:51 AM   #38
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so back on topic... working at a bmw specialty shop maintaining an e46 will run your 1000$ yearly on average to maintain properly. I've noticed some are better than others, really luck of the draw. most common problems include, power steering lines (leaking), sway bar links, coolant reservoir (cracking), t.stat (staying closed), water pump (bearing breaks under pressure and the belt flys off). But i do have to say the interior fit and finish is like no other car (amazing), the driving quality is amazing and potential is huge.

Excellent post man! This is what I like to read. Experienced person telling it like it is. So I guess I'm lucky my E46's don't need $1000 a year on maintenance?! I barely drive the M3, and the 330ci ZHP doesn't get much attention either anymore. Maybe summertime that will change? We'll see

Definatly worth dealing with a BMW Specialty shop when servicing your BMW's.

After dealing with lousy BMW Dealership Service departments and countless headaches they directly caused to me and my vehicles, I will never step foot in a dealership ever again to service any of my cars.

I'd rather pay a BMW Pro mechanic like Rocco at RMP, then to ever recieve free warranty work from the stealership who just can't seem to fix a simple problem after 5 appointments let alone the first time.
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