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Old 12-14-2008, 10:04 PM   #1
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Deciding whether to get a BMW...

Hi, I'm new here. I signed up awhile back when I still had my 1996 Acura Integra GSR. A couple of months ago I wanted to sell my GSR and get a E46, but didn't know how much it would cost to maintain one. I did some research and it seems like there are a lot of maintenance to do on a E46. When I had my GSR I did a lot of work on it so if I decide to get a E46 I will be able to do some of the simple maintenance stuff.

Known problems I know are :
-rear subframe torn or crack
-windows regular stop working
-electrical issues

I was wondering if someone can share their experience with owning a BMW and how much more would it cost compare to my GSR to maintain one. I just don't want to buy one and end up putting out more money than I have to to keep it running good. Other cars I was looking at was the G35 coupe or a Subaru WRX since they also fit in my price range. I haven't really did any research on those cars though and don't know how reliable they are compared to the E46.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:09 PM   #2
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Some of the early E46's (mostly 99's) had tranny issues too. Stay clear of those!
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:06 PM   #3
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Also stay away from 2001 M3's.

I have a 2002 330ci and it costs me about $1,500-$2,000/year to maintain including oil changes. I'm pretty anal and I like preventative maintenance. I've had the car for 2 years and the only thing that died was my thermostat.

edit: mind you, I've done my discs/brakes, inspection II, water pump (with the thermostat) which is usual stuff.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:12 PM   #4
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I was the second owner of my E46 and tried to do a lot of preventative maintenance, but things still broke down on me. Window regulators, cracked expansion tank... I wouldn't be surprised if $1500 was a good amount to set aside for out-of-warranty work. BMW's are wonderful to drive, but I just don't think they're going to be reliable than your GSR.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:30 PM   #5
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An E46 will easily cost 2-3x more per year to maintain than a GS-R, on average.

The G35 will be about the same as the E46, and the WRX, a good bit less.
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I disagree greatly on the G35 - I have a few friends who have them and they almost never have issues...
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:57 AM   #7
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^ Actually, the G35 coupe is a lot more to maintain.
They have some major clutch problems, like the 540i's and 3 Series do (release bearings).

I know the service manager at Infiniti and I've experienced some of the common issues.

Not as reliable as I thought they were (know first hand).

Back to the BMW, after all the failures I've had (had the car from new), I think I've gone through most of the common failures. The only think left to do is replace the Vanos unit when it finally goes; perhaps another 30K.

Surpised to say, for the past 1.5 years, nothings has gone wrong.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:25 PM   #8
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I would not get a E46. After I have driven 1999 Lexus LS, I realized it's just a girly car that already is starting to get dated, and you are going to be paying too much cash to keep it running. I would only get late model E39.

I say stick to your GSR or get newer TSX/TL.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:44 PM   #9
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:39 PM   #10
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I'm sure you doooo....
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Old 12-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #11
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:15 PM   #12
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newer TSX/TL.
Basically.

If you want something that will cost as little as a GS-R to maintain, look at the Acura twins, or if you want RWD handling that is damn near the same as a 3, look at the IS300.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:47 PM   #13
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Love our new TL as well.

When it comes driving pleasure, the 3 Series really does shine. Other cars come close, but I think the 3 Series is probably king.

When it comes to reliability, cost of maintenance, others are better.

You would be amazed how well the 04-07 TLs drive. The extra HP is nice too.
I actually prefer the drive of a 350Z over the G35 Coupe.
I think G35 sedan is okay, but no 3Series.

I haven't owned or driven the IS300 or IS250/IS350 for any great lenghts, but it's a pretty good car.
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:34 PM   #14
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1500 a year on maintenance? wow. all I've done in the last 4 years with a 2001 325ci has been oil changes. need to get the tranny fluid changed soon though. only 70 k on her might be helping out.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:59 PM   #15
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An E46 will easily cost 2-3x more per year to maintain than a GS-R, on average.

The G35 will be about the same as the E46, and the WRX, a good bit less.
Haha,

No offence or anything, but how would you know how much an E46 costs to maintain? I love it when you comment on things you've never owned

For the record, I own two E46's, and have never spent any more money on maintenance on either car then my 2005 Acura RSX Type-s. Just regular oil changes/fluid changes, tune-ups, brakes and tires.

Nothing else has gone wrong!

Generally, these cars do cost more to repair than Acura's. I love it when people make a point to say this. But they never realize to look at the original cost of each vehicle. What Did your acura gsr cost brand new, and what did an E46 330ci cost brand new? Ofcourse parts will be more expensive in a car worth at least twice as much as another (brand new). You're buying a higher end car.

Find a great inexpensive quality mechanic shop like RMP, and you'll see owning a BMW is not as expensive as you think.

I've owned many Acura's and I've had bigger headaches with these cars than I've ever had from any of my BMW's.
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