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Old 10-18-2008, 02:03 PM   #1
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silly question

Can anybody tell me if a e46 m3 engine (s54) would fit in a e30
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:29 PM   #2
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Anything will fit given enough time, money and skill. Others have done this swap though.

Here's one:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=359200
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:19 PM   #3
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It will only fit if you sell your TCD kit to me

Yes it will fit, you will need some kind of standalone engine management to run it though.

Most of the swap parts to fit the motor physically in the e30 engine bay would be the same as an m50 swap(oil pan, mounts, 5-spd transmission, driveshaft)
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:27 PM   #4
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I can get a 2002 motor with smg tranny 36000 km on the engine for $2500.00
I'm thinking its a good deal .
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:15 PM   #5
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wow ill buy that motor give me his number
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:20 PM   #6
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lol 2500$ is a good price and put about 3-5 grand in the fricking electric and you are done !
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:58 PM   #7
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3-5 into the electric? Just do VEMS standalone for less than $1500.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:41 PM   #8
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How about the tranny being a SMG, what I'm I going to do about that.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:05 PM   #9
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Let's be clear: this would be one of the most advanced engine swaps done, period. If you don't already know, then don't bother.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:01 PM   #10
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Let's be clear: this would be one of the most advanced engine swaps done, period. If you don't already know, then don't bother.

What do you mean By that?
Have you ever driven an SMG tranny?
We are not talking about your chessy ass steptronic on your 3 series.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:08 PM   #11
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Yes, I have, yes I know what a SMG is.

What I meant is if you don't already know how you're going to 'handle' installing and getting a SMG working, don't bother. I imagine there is considerable work to get the SMG operating, so I suppose the original estimate for electrics was probably more accurate. $1.5K for engine, another $? for electronic control of the SMG.

If you are posting for ideas on how to get the SMG to work in an E30, then I would hazard you probably don't have enough experience to do this swap. I certainly don't. Forgive me if I'm wrong, maybe you have intimate knowledge of the sequential shifter system, engine rev mating controls, etc.

Not sure I really like your tone, but maybe I'm just reading your response wrong. Why would you think I'd own an automatic? Now THAT'S insulting.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:35 PM   #12
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Not sure I really like your tone, but maybe I'm just reading your response wrong. Why would you think I'd own an automatic? Now THAT'S insulting.

I think I misunderstood what you said.
I didn't mean to be insulting.
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Haha, no problems.

In any case, the SMG would be a monumental amount of work. Like, WAY more than it would be worth. The e30 is just not worthwhile.

Edit: sacrilegious, I know.
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I can get a 2002 motor with smg tranny 36000 km on the engine for $2500.00
I'm thinking its a good deal .
If you can get the motor for $2500 with a tranny that's a very good deal, because it's easily worth double that, so if I were you I'd buy it before someone else does.

And no, you don't want to bother with the SMG. You'll pretty much need to convert your entire E30 electronics to E46 electronics to work. If you're up for such a feat I doubt it since you're asking if an S54 will fit into an E30. Not to mention the cost of ALL the electronics from an E46 M3. Plus there will be some fabrication involved. It's an easy $10k project believe me.

You're better off getting the motor and running a stand alone as someone already mentioned.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:28 PM   #15
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I actually don’t like the SMG transmission.
What I’m I going to do for a tranny?
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