Lets talk piggy back

[DriveItSideways]

So I have made a few discussions on other forums about piggy back options, id like to see what you all think here on max.

Im looking for a user friendly piggy back system, not intrested in a full EMS because my goal is only 300-350whp.

I know of the Apexi safcII (discontinued) and the replacement Apexi Neo. As of right now the Neo is at the top of the list.

Are there any other suggestions? I know Blitz has a fuel computer but havent heard much about it.

Any input is appreciated.

[MarkD]

Well here's my reply!

[kevin325]

Originally Posted by MarkD

Well here's my reply!

LOL!!!!

[///tyron]

what about the Apexi Power FC?

[DriveItSideways]

Originally Posted by ///tyron

what about the Apexi Power FC?

Sorry I should have mentioned it has to be under $1,000

[///tyron]

buy a used PFC, you can get them for $800.

i wish bmw had more avaliable options like this and not a $1400 tune from AA

[MarkD]

Originally Posted by ///tyron

buy a used PFC, you can get them for $800.

i wish bmw had more avaliable options like this and not a $1400 tune from AA

There are other options, most of you just don't want to take those routes!

[///tyron]

Originally Posted by MarkD

There are other options, most of you just don't want to take those routes!

what do you recomend? im currently turboing an e36 M52, and stumped as to what management to run.

[Hamann330ci]

Any off the stand-alone or piggy backs are going to cost you some good coin, when getting into these types of projects thats what you can expect. Unless the turbo has software with it.

Other then that is knowing someone with a software wrighting program that you can go to the dyno with to tune.

Is there anyone out here that has this, I my self need to make a tune for my car but don't have the software to do so.

You can also look into getting a dyno done but with the A/F plotted on the chart and getting them to tune from there but it will be alot of back and fourth. I was thinking of this

[Boots R]

Originally Posted by Hamann330ci

Any off the stand-alone or piggy backs are going to cost you some good coin, when getting into these types of projects thats what you can expect. Unless the turbo has software with it.

Other then that is knowing someone with a software wrighting program that you can go to the dyno with to tune.

Is there anyone out here that has this, I my self need to make a tune for my car but don't have the software to do so.

You can also look into getting a dyno done but with the A/F plotted on the chart and getting them to tune from there but it will be alot of back and fourth. I was thinking of this

www.dsylva-tech.ca

[DriveItSideways]

Anyone have experience with the greddy emanage?

[AceOfSpades]

lol

[FuryriderX]

megasquirt it, or chip it. piggybacks will always piss you off. unless they fall under the category that mark posted.

/thread

[kevin325]

Originally Posted by Boots R

www.dsylva-tech.ca

x2.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

If you really don't want to bother with a full standalone, then tuning u'r stock ECU is the way to go... piggy backs like the ones you listed, or Greddy's E-damage, etc are all just problems waiting to happen.

Seems like you need to call Mark D as stated above.