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Old 06-23-2008, 02:00 PM   #16
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How Subaru is going to compete against that ^^ with the latest gen STi is beyond me. Someone definitely got fired at Subaru.
I forget where but I read in a mag that Subaru and Toyota are teaming up on a new celica awd-t
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:12 PM   #17
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Does anyone know what the CMVSS 215(bumpers) regulation is?

These cars appear to have identical bumpers to Canadian cars, but are not allowed over here?!
I believe it has to do with impact bumper standards. Something like Canada is 8kmh and the US is a little higher. It is the actual reinforcements under the bumpers.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:19 PM   #18
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I believe it has to do with impact bumper standards. Something like Canada is 8kmh and the US is a little higher. It is the actual reinforcements under the bumpers.
Close, but you're a little backwards. The US laws are less demanding and much less stringent than ours are. The US Standard is 2.5mph collision and Canada is literally double at 5mph.

Mainly the bumper rules have to do with absorbtion issues. For example, many cars will need a new re-bar or new supports. Some even get exterior treatments. Like the audi TT has "tumors" that are added.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:31 PM   #19
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there's no front re-bar over the intercooler in the prev gen Evo, that's why its not avail in Canada. Easily something that can be retro-fitted, but there you go, still not legal
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:47 PM   #20
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there's no front re-bar over the intercooler in the prev gen Evo, that's why its not avail in Canada. Easily something that can be retro-fitted, but there you go, still not legal
It will be. The new bumper regulations will literally state: To meet the safety requirements the car must either meet a) the old standard or b) whatever the US says.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:55 PM   #21
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Close, but you're a little backwards. The US laws are less demanding and much less stringent than ours are. The US Standard is 2.5mph collision and Canada is literally double at 5mph.

Mainly the bumper rules have to do with absorbtion issues. For example, many cars will need a new re-bar or new supports. Some even get exterior treatments. Like the audi TT has "tumors" that are added.

i thought the us had 3mph..not 2.5
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:43 PM   #22
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There is something else in the works too. Apparently, cars that are conditional allows based upon bumper status may soon be allowed without any modifications.

So cars like the B7 RS4 and older USDM EVO's can be admitted.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:51 PM   #23
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There is something else in the works too. Apparently, cars that are conditional allows based upon bumper status may soon be allowed without any modifications.

So cars like the B7 RS4 and older USDM EVO's can be admitted.
Wow, nice.
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:21 PM   #24
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:38 PM   #25
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why is the GTI, GLI, and Evo on the list of cars that you cant import here?, if they are sold here?
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:43 PM   #26
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why is the GTI, GLI, and Evo on the list of cars that you cant import here?, if they are sold here?
US versions have different bumpers

hense y the golf R32 isnt allowed over here
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:16 PM   #27
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Well at least there is a specific list- which means that someone out there is actually taking the time to pass/fail these cars ahead of time to avoid disappointment for someone later.

But THUMBS DOWN to the manufacturers who build and specify the car to a country with a lower safety standard! I would expect any self respecting car company to build all their cars to the country with the highest safety standard they do business with.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:30 PM   #28
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they ruined the STI quite well...im sorry but a bulbous hatchback?..no thanx.
i'm guessing that subaru is trying to come up with a hot hatch, so that more and more people become more familar with the brand. once subaru does this, a sexy impreza would just anhilate the mitsubishis

please let the GTO here

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Old 06-24-2008, 01:52 AM   #29
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but didnt they change the bumper regulations in canada to meet us standards i know for a fact audi rs2's are not legal in canada and america also what a beautiful piece of machinery also wouldent mind seeing a few shooting around lol
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:43 AM   #30
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Here's the list straight from the government, not MSN...

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/impor...Section3_0.htm
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