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Old 06-12-2008, 10:03 AM   #1
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Government ready to drop copyright bomb



And who said petitions don't work?


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The minister was forced to retreat on introducing the bill in December after being hit with major public opposition. More than 20,000 people joined a protest group started on social networking site Facebook by University of Ottawa internet and e-commerce professor Michael Geist, an outspoken critic of the bill.
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Government ready to drop copyright bomb


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The government is ready to introduce controversial new copyright legislation on Thursday that experts believe will introduce harsh new restrictions on consumers.




Minister of Industry Jim Prentice and the Minister of Canadian Heritage Josée Verner will unveil the bill to amend the Copyright Act on Thursday at 10:45 a.m. ET with brief statements, followed by a question-and-answer session with the media.

Critics fear the bill will mirror the U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which similarly brought in restrictive measures and opened the door for copyright owners to enact huge lawsuits against violators.

Prentice has said on several occasions that Canada's Copyright Act must be amended in order to bring the country into compliance with the World Intellectual Property Organization treaty it signed in 1996.

The minister was forced to retreat on introducing the bill in December after being hit with major public opposition. More than 20,000 people joined a protest group started on social networking site Facebook by University of Ottawa internet and e-commerce professor Michael Geist, an outspoken critic of the bill.

The opposition to the legislation has only grown since then, with the Facebook group counting more than 40,000 members now.

Canadian artists, librarians and students, as well as a business coalition made up of some of Canada's biggest companies - including Rogers Communications Inc. and Telus Corp., as well as Google Inc. and Yahoo Inc. - have expressed their opposition to any legislation that imposes harsh copyright restrictions.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:24 AM   #2
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so for the people who just woke up and didn't understand a word of that.
facebook did what?
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:30 AM   #3
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Facebook started a protest/petition group and introduced it so they never passed the bill in December.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:39 AM   #4
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Got a link to the FB group?
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:44 AM   #5
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Here it is: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:49 AM   #6
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what bill?
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:13 AM   #7
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Wait a sec, they didn't introduce the bill in December amidst opposition but are introducing it again now?
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:49 AM   #8
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Yup... trying to see what happened. was supposed to be at 10:45 this morning..

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The government is ready to introduce controversial new copyright legislation that experts believe will introduce harsh new restrictions on downloading, copying songs to CDs and music players, unlocking cellphones and time-shifting of television shows.
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:32 PM   #9
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this isn't good at all on many levels.. 1st one being 'democracy'

if theres already a 20K large petition..that made the libs pull it.
why do the conservs try to push it through?
do they care about what their public wants?

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OTTAWA - The federal government is secretly negotiating an agreement to revamp international copyright laws which could make the information on Canadian iPods, laptop computers or other personal electronic devices illegal and greatly increase the difficulty of travelling with such devices.

The deal could also impose strict regulations on Internet service providers, forcing those companies to hand over customer information without a court order.

Called the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), the new plan would see Canada join other countries, including the United States and members of the European Union, to form an international coalition against copyright infringement.

The agreement is being structured much like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) except it will create rules and regulations regarding private copying and copyright laws.

Federal trade agreements do not require parliamentary approval.

[b]The deal would create a international regulator that could turn border guards and other public security personnel into copyright police. The security officials would be charged with checking laptops, iPods and even cellular phones for content that "infringes" on copyright laws, such as ripped CDs and movies.

The guards would also be responsible for determining what is infringing content and what is not.[/q]

The agreement proposes any content that may have been copied from a DVD or digital video recorder would be open for scrutiny by officials - even if the content was copied legally.

"If Hollywood could order intellectual property laws for Christmas what would they look like? This is pretty close," said David Fewer, staff counsel at the University of Ottawa's Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic. "The process on ACTA so far has been cloak and dagger. This certainly raises concerns."

The leaked ACTA document states officials should be given the "authority to take action against infringers (i.e., authority to act without complaint by rights holders)."

Anyone found with infringing content in their possession would be open to a fine.

They may also have their device confiscated or destroyed, according to the four-page document.

The trade agreement includes "civil enforcement" measures which give security personnel the "authority to order ex parte searches" (without a lawyer present) "and other preliminary measures".

In Canada, border guards already perform random searches of laptops at airports to check for child pornography. ACTA would expand the role of those guards.

On top of these enforcement efforts, ACTA also proposes imposing new sanctions on Internet service providers. It would force them to hand over personal information pertaining to "claimed infringement" or "alleged infringers" - users who may be transmitting or sharing copyrighted content over the Internet.

Currently, rights holders must collect evidence to prove someone is sharing copyrighted material over the Internet. That evidence is then presented to a judge who issues a court order telling the Internet service provider to identify the customer.

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That is beyond ridiculous. WTF?
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maybe we shoul erase the mp3z thread????
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OTTAWA–The federal government has moved to bring the copyright law into the 21st century, to catch up with the Internet revolution.

Industry Minister Jim Prentice introduced legislation yesterday that would ease penalties for people who illegally download copyrighted music and videos for their own use, but maximize penalties for those who want to turn it into commercial gain.

The current copyright law, which has not been updated in more than 10 years, doesn't acknowledge rapid technology advances. It contains a provision that could mean a teenager, for instance, sitting in his or her living room, could face damages of $20,000 for copying a movie off the Internet.

But under the proposed legislation, the penalties for copying a movie would be capped at $500 in some circumstances – although critics caution this is by no means clear-cut. Proposed amendments to the act are "clearly intended to protect consumers in respect of what might technically be an infringement, but relates to personal, private use," Prentice said.

The changes would make it illegal to copy a compact disc or DVD to a personal digital device such as an iPod – even if a consumer has already paid for the CD or DVD – if it involves breaking a so-called digital lock to make the copy.

People caught hacking digital locks would face penalties of up to $20,000.

The act would shift the focus for enforcement to Internet providers or copyright owners, who could sue those who use their material. But, for example, if someone downloaded five movies without authorization for personal use, the penalty would still only be $500 total.

The Liberals said the new act appears unenforceable. "Are we going to have cyber-police now?" asked Liberal heritage critic Denis Coderre. "How are they going to manage to go and (investigate) while respecting privacy?"

Liberal MP Scott Brison called the proposed legislation "half-baked." He said "the government has not thought this through. The government does not know how it will enforce these provisions."

Observers noted that the break for consumers might turn out to be much more limited than it appears.

That's because the new copying rights for personal use and the lower cash penalties only apply if the work being copied is not protected by a password, anti-copy device or other so-called digital lock.

Otherwise, the existing penalties of up to $20,000 for each infringement would still apply. Observers charged that this severely undercuts the private-use clauses that the government argues make the act more consumer-friendly.


"Really what the government is saying through this legislation is that creators or – more accurately, content distributors – can use digital locks ... and through those technologies determine the legal rules," Jeremy de Beer, a University of Ottawa professor, told CBC-TV. "And the technological locks trump the exceptions that are in the act for consumers."

Also, teenagers or other consumers who buy songs online and pass them on through email or shared electronic systems still face the $20,000 penalty if sued by a distributor or copyright holder.

But Prentice said the intent is to go after commercial piracy, not individual users.

Echoing that, Duncan McKie, president of the Canadian Independent Record Production Association, told reporters: "We'd only be concerned with the most egregious violators, people who try to make a business out of the trade and infringement of materials.

"We're not that concerned about people in their basements sharing a few files here and there. Obviously to pursue those people would be very difficult and very expensive."

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Old 06-13-2008, 12:07 PM   #13
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Seems to me this is just grandstanding. A bill to say there's a bill and to appease the commercial distributors.
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