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06-03-2008, 04:57 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: mississauga
Posts: 87
Car: 2003 330i
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on my 330, i switched from petro 91 to sunoco 94 and got 50km per tank more on average.. also use sunoco for the 5x points when using 94... every 4 tanks i get a free cars wash (the works  )
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06-03-2008, 05:08 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 542
Car: E39
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Majority of us will use Sunoco 94.........your car will run that much better...
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06-03-2008, 07:24 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Stoney Creek --> Now Toronto
Posts: 324
Car: 2003 745Li
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I use 100 Octane (well only once this past weekend  )
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06-04-2008, 09:40 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Milton, ON
Posts: 1,591
Car: 2002 BMW 330i
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I use Shell 91.
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06-04-2008, 11:44 AM
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Moderator/Event-Coordinator
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Stance
Posts: 12,608
Car: S54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by propr'one
just switched from sunoco 94 to shell 91 under mystikal's advice.
i get better gas mileage.
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Ha, serious? I'm glad it's not just me. Sunoco still has to go into my E30 (really aggressive map), but the M3 sees nothing but Shell.
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06-04-2008, 01:33 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ottawa, ONT, Canada
Posts: 559
Car: 02 320i Sedan
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Esso only for me.
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06-05-2008, 01:56 AM
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Detailing Specialist
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Aurora
Posts: 479
Car: 330I
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Shell 91 is the best overall
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06-07-2008, 12:08 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North York
Posts: 6,741
Car: 540ia
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Until someone shows me a scientific study that one company's gas is better than another's, its all the same shit to me. I don't care about your 'feeling' a difference.
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06-07-2008, 07:08 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Waterloo/Mississauga
Posts: 1,407
Car: AW 323ci
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marky_mark
Shell 91 is the best overall
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^werd, BMW agrees, it's the only fuel without ethanol (paying for 10% corn is nuts...Ultra94) Shell has all of the detergents BMW reccomends and is officially endorsed too.
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06-07-2008, 10:16 AM
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Moderator/Event-Coordinator
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Stance
Posts: 12,608
Car: S54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by europrince
Until someone shows me a scientific study that one company's gas is better than another's, its all the same shit to me. I don't care about your 'feeling' a difference.
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Read the pumps at each station for ethanol content. You'll begin understanding there.
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06-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North York
Posts: 6,741
Car: 540ia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystikal
Read the pumps at each station for ethanol content. You'll begin understanding there.
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Natural Resources Canada link:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/publications/...27_01_1991.cfm
"What effect does using ethanol fuels have on fuel consumption?
While a 10 percent ethanol blend contains about 97 percent of the energy of "pure" gasoline, the energy loss is partly offset by the increased combustion efficiency of the engine. This could increase fuel consumption by about 2-3 percent"
So, for the average car, it'll be a 0.2 to 0.3l/100km consumption increase but cleaner exhaust. I don't think that's a big difference. Driving pattern and habit have a much larger effect.
Ok, so Shell is the only one that doesn't use ethanol?
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06-07-2008, 11:22 AM
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Moderator/Event-Coordinator
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Stance
Posts: 12,608
Car: S54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by europrince
Natural Resources Canada link:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/publications/...27_01_1991.cfm
"What effect does using ethanol fuels have on fuel consumption?
While a 10 percent ethanol blend contains about 97 percent of the energy of "pure" gasoline, the energy loss is partly offset by the increased combustion efficiency of the engine. This could increase fuel consumption by about 2-3 percent"
So, for the average car, it'll be a 0.2 to 0.3l/100km consumption increase but cleaner exhaust. I don't think that's a big difference. Driving pattern and habit have a much larger effect.
Ok, so Shell is the only one that doesn't use ethanol?
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Yeah, that increased combustion efficiency part is BS. That would only occur on a car that is designed to run on 94 (and is therefore cutting back timing to run on 91). I see a lot of government sites claiming this 2-3% business, which makes me skeptical.
That said, ethanol effects debate or not, Shell 91 is the only premium that has none of it.
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06-08-2008, 10:59 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: calgary, alberta
Posts: 539
Car: 94' 325i Auto White
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i only get gas from husky or mohawk 91+ octane in both my 330ci and x5. I never go to shell nor esso no more, last time i put gas from shell into my x5, it screwed up my fuel level sensors, said it was empty, thought it was maybe just a slow sensor, sensor never went over the mid mark. I got gas again after from esso, did the samething, i was pretty sure it was the sensors that went bad. got gas from husky afterwards, my level finally came back to normal. Dunno, but i haven't got gas from shell or esso again.
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06-10-2008, 10:29 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 120
Car: 330i
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94 octane is waste of money unless you have some serious engine work and/or engine management (high compression / advanced timing).
I use 91 octane Shell or PetroCanada.
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06-12-2008, 06:51 AM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ptbo
Posts: 210
Car: 318is ZX10R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by europrince
Natural Resources Canada link:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/publications/...27_01_1991.cfm
"What effect does using ethanol fuels have on fuel consumption?
While a 10 percent ethanol blend contains about 97 percent of the energy of "pure" gasoline, the energy loss is partly offset by the increased combustion efficiency of the engine. This could increase fuel consumption by about 2-3 percent"
So, for the average car, it'll be a 0.2 to 0.3l/100km consumption increase but cleaner exhaust. I don't think that's a big difference. Driving pattern and habit have a much larger effect.
Ok, so Shell is the only one that doesn't use ethanol?
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This is complete BS.
A tank of gas with ethanol blend averages 70-90kms less driving distance for me.
I have tried all sorts of fuel, and tried, (without much success), getting ethanol content info on different brands.
It seems that inconsistancy is the only thing you can count on.
Everyone will notice that that they USUALLY get better mileage while using 91+ octane, and most people will also attribute that to the octane content. Wrong.
Most higher octane fuels used to have NO ethanol, that is now changing.
There are only 2 gas stations (in Peterborough) that I know ,for sure, do not blend thier fuel. They are both Esso stations. Why? I have no idea... when I ask, they tell me that ESSO requires only a percentage of thier fuel to be blended...
As a note:
I got interested in this subject when I noticed significantly crappy mileage while running Pioneer high octane fuel in my 10.5:1 compression mustang. The mileage was SOOO bad, that I started replacing O2 sensors etc. before I realized what was actually happening!
Stay away from Pioneer
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