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03-18-2008, 12:53 AM
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brampton
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Car: 01 540i M-6pd
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All season performance tires VS Summer performance tires
Is there any downside to going with All Season performance tires VS Summer performance tires.
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03-18-2008, 01:03 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Creston, Iowa
Posts: 4,171
Car: 1972 Citroen SM
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i'm guessing summer tires will have more grip as more tire will be in contact with the road, compared to all season which have to work in snow...i dunno i could be wrong
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03-18-2008, 01:04 AM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 461
Car: 330i
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I am personally looking into Falken 452 and yokohama S drive in the size of 225/45/17
Both of them are summer tires and the only cost $500-600 a set.
Did anyone use any of these 2 tires before?
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03-18-2008, 01:06 AM
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brampton
Posts: 651
Car: 01 540i M-6pd
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i reall dont understand why but i'm finding All season's are cheaper then summer tires in some cases. For example eagle F1's are aboput $300 a tire and the all season Eagle F1's are 186 each???
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03-18-2008, 01:56 AM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 77
Car: Budget Ballin' e36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Desisuperman
i reall dont understand why but i'm finding All season's are cheaper then summer tires in some cases. For example eagle F1's are aboput $300 a tire and the all season Eagle F1's are 186 each???
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It usually is the case. Think of it this way the allseasons are jack of all trades but master of none. If you dont care about performance and worry about tire wear... then allseasons are for you. IF your into performance I would highly recommend getting dedicated summers as they will blow the allseasons in all performance aspects.
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03-18-2008, 02:14 AM
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moderationistismingly
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bradford, ON
Posts: 8,800
Car: 97 328is-02 Impreza
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Any all-season tire is a compromise, unless you're ultimate goal is to hit 100,000km on a set of tires. If you're worried about performance get either summer performance tires for the summer, and all-season or preferably winter performance tires for the snow.
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03-18-2008, 11:52 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,798
Car: 87 325is
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i'm planning on getting summer tires this season... but how are they in the rain?
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03-18-2008, 01:06 PM
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Stuck In The 6th Gear
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitchener
Posts: 3,622
Car: 1999 540i
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If you want really good performance tires expect to change them often. It's almost a rule that if they have really good grip you will pay a lot and they won't last you long. I remember a sales guy telling me the more you pay the better the grip will be but you'll be back often.
I use Falken and rear tires last me only one season (spring/summer) fronts I change in the spring and then mid summer next season.
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03-18-2008, 01:20 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Stoney Creek --> Now Toronto
Posts: 324
Car: 2003 745Li
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Like a smart man once told me,
"There is no such thing as an all seasonal tire, Get Summers for Summer and Winters For Winter" 
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03-18-2008, 01:34 PM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North York
Posts: 6,729
Car: 540ia
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Guys, there are all seasons and then there are all seasons. You can't take a joe schmoe all season and compare it to a summer tire. Take an ultra high performance all season and then do the comparison. Unless you track, I guarantee you'll be very happy with an uhp all season tire. That's what I use in place of summers, along with dedicated winters.
The top 10 lines in the link below will serve you well. The Kumh ASXs offer great bang for the buck.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...jsp?type=UHPAS
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03-18-2008, 01:48 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 461
Car: 330i
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I usually follow the ultra high performance summer tires one
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=UHP
The General UHP is #1 on the list but few of my friends sometimes complain about these tires as well...so I dont know whether I should trust the list or not.
Also, I wont have that much headache if they have Falken in the list as well...but too bad they dont...
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03-18-2008, 02:17 PM
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 645
Car: 2010 MB B200
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I am getting All Season Yoko Advan because I don't plan to drive the car hard anymore.
Now it is just a mean of transportation. So longer durability is good. I have winter for winters.
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03-18-2008, 02:18 PM
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Formerly Flav_cool
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,357
Car: '98 328is + '94 325i
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Quote:
Originally Posted by terrence330
I am personally looking into Falken 452 and yokohama S drive in the size of 225/45/17
Both of them are summer tires and the only cost $500-600 a set.
Did anyone use any of these 2 tires before?
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Bro if you're putting these on an e36, do not get this size!! They are too big (too tall). They will be 0.3 inches too tall compared to the stock 205/60/15. I don't understand why everyone keeps getting 225/45/17, are they cheaper or something?
Get 235/40/17 , that is the right size, even though I noticed it's 0.3 inches too short, but at least it doesn't rub, and this is the tire size listed on the door jam for 17s
245/40/17 would be exactly the same overall diameter as 205/60/15 which is 24.7 inches.
On another note, europrince makes an interesting point. So quality all season tires will be pretty good performers but last longer than dedicated summer performance tires?
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Last edited by Dr. Flyview; 03-18-2008 at 02:24 PM.
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03-18-2008, 06:45 PM
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3rd Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 461
Car: 330i
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flav_cool
Bro if you're putting these on an e36, do not get this size!! They are too big (too tall). They will be 0.3 inches too tall compared to the stock 205/60/15. I don't understand why everyone keeps getting 225/45/17, are they cheaper or something?
Get 235/40/17 , that is the right size, even though I noticed it's 0.3 inches too short, but at least it doesn't rub, and this is the tire size listed on the door jam for 17s
245/40/17 would be exactly the same overall diameter as 205/60/15 which is 24.7 inches.
On another note, europrince makes an interesting point. So quality all season tires will be pretty good performers but last longer than dedicated summer performance tires?
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first of all, I have a E46 with stock size 205/50/17
The difference between 205/50/17 and 225/45/17 is only 0.4% different.
Secondly, I didnt say I am going to put these tires on my E46 since I havent figure out whether I will buy 17" or 18" rims for it.
I am going to put these 225/45/17 tires on my subaru
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03-18-2008, 10:52 PM
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Formerly Flav_cool
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,357
Car: '98 328is + '94 325i
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That's cool, that's why I started my post that way... 
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