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Old 02-14-2008, 09:44 PM   #1
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Help!!!

Seems like one thing gets fixed on the E36 an another breaks....driving home today, the dashboard and all interior backlighting went out. The speedometer an stuff still function, the mileage lights up, but no backlighting. The side markers on the outside don't turn on when I turn on the light switch, but they blink with the indicator. The headlights and taillights work, except for the passengers taillight (not brake lights, reverse, indicators, etc. I tried disconnecting the battery and waiting, then reconnecting, but it didn't fix it. The OBC says tail light failure. Every single light on the car was working this morning. Seems odd that some lights went out but others didn't.

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Old 02-14-2008, 10:16 PM   #2
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Wow ... that's a strange one. I will start with the fuse box .. check your manual for your lighting and go through them individually.

At least your OBC detected tail light failure ... simple fix.. replace bulb.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:22 PM   #3
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DEFINATLY check ur fuse
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:52 AM   #4
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hmmm i checked the fuse box this morning....fuse 37 was blown an i replaced it but when I tried the lights it just blew again!! wtf

edit: K after some googling I found this page.
http://edu.cqdx.gov.cn/car/134796.html
as unorganized as it is, I think it explains the exact same issue I'm having....lights shorting out, no buzzer sound when I open the door with lights "on", etc. Gonna check the light switch when I go home today. If anybody else has more suggestions please let me know...

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Old 02-15-2008, 12:30 PM   #5
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i just replaced my light switch for a different problem, when i took it out and shook it it sounded like it was full of debris. entriely possible yours is producing a short and blows the fuse. you can get a new one from bavauto.com for around 40 bucks i think. easy enough fix. the is a screw in the bottom of the whole vent/switch assembly, unscrew that and pull it out, pull of the switch knob from the switch and undo the big plastic nut. switch connection comes of with a twist. replace switch reverse order you are done

new switch also feel nice and crisp
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:23 PM   #6
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Search on bimmerforums.com ...I remember reading something VERY similar. There are wires that go to the taillights through your trunk lid, and they are not insulated properly, so after years of openeing and closing the trunk, they slide around and the insulation comes off, shorting out the components you listed!!!

Someone who has more time, please find the thread I'm talking about.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:34 PM   #7
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Friend of mine lost his dash lights in his 328i.. if he replaces the fuse they work until the first time the door locks lock.. It's the front pass door causing it... e36's have some weird issues sometimes lol
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:54 PM   #8
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@ Mickey Knox: Thanks...I was gonna try removing the whole dash lol
@Flav: I initially thought about that but concluded that the wiring to the trunk wouldn't affect the interior lights....guess i was wrong.
@ infamou$: now thats a strange one...hope thats not the case tho. Its very similar in manner that when I put in a new fuse, I can see the dash light up for a fraction of a second before it blows again.


I'm gonna try troubleshooting from easiest to hardest...first with the trunk wiring, then the switch itself, then if that comes up with nothing, I guess I'll just trace the wiring start to end.
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Not sure what year your car is.. but just out of curiosity.. If at night (when you can see the dash lights) if you hit the button on your center console near the pass side window buttons for the locks... see if your dash lights work for a fraction of a second (blown fuse or not) my buddies car will flash them for a second.. let me know ???!!

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@ Mickey Knox: Thanks...I was gonna try removing the whole dash lol
@Flav: I initially thought about that but concluded that the wiring to the trunk wouldn't affect the interior lights....guess i was wrong.
@ infamou$: now thats a strange one...hope thats not the case tho. Its very similar in manner that when I put in a new fuse, I can see the dash light up for a fraction of a second before it blows again.


I'm gonna try troubleshooting from easiest to hardest...first with the trunk wiring, then the switch itself, then if that comes up with nothing, I guess I'll just trace the wiring start to end.
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:11 PM   #10
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Not sure what year your car is.. but just out of curiosity.. If at night (when you can see the dash lights) if you hit the button on your center console near the pass side window buttons for the locks... see if your dash lights work for a fraction of a second (blown fuse or not) my buddies car will flash them for a second.. let me know ???!!
My car is a '95 325i.

As far as this problem goes....it was just another bump in my love/hate relationship with E36's.
I had some free time so I thought I'd just take a look at the trunk wiring....looked good as new. Just out of curiosity, I disconnected my battery and grabbed my work knife....I ripped the rubber tubing covering the wires and to my amazement I found a mess of exposed wires, all with burn marks
Right there in the parking lot of the university, I cut each one apart, stripped them down to clean wiring, and used some wire connecters I had in the electronics kit supplied by the school for a group project.
I quickly wrapped them up in electrical tape and tucked them away, then replaced the blown fuse, and voila...FULLY FUNCTIONING LIGHTING!!!

Took me all of 15 minutes maximum, but freezing my ass off for 15 minutes was totally worth it. I even got some weird looks when people saw me taking a blade to my car lol.
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so this was in the trunk wiring?
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:10 PM   #12
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yup....all the wiring was rubbing together an started shorting out
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:33 AM   #13
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Exactly what I was referring to...the wires rub together and the insulation on each wire strips off!
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:00 PM   #14
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I had that happen to me too when I replaced the bulbs. Sometimes the bulbs are faulty and they let more amps thru, as a result blowing the fuse. Fuse 37 is responsible for all the lights inside the car, your right corner light and the taillights. It's really weird how it's all connected... but I'm not the one who designed the car. I replaced the bulb for stock bulb and it worked fine. As a test, I put in the "faulty" bulk in the other socket (on the left side of the car) and it blew a different fuse... I then proceeded to breaking the bulk for all the hassle it has cuased me.. i smashed it with a hammer... i felt a lot better after
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:31 PM   #15
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I had the same trunk wiring issues.... it's a common problem/ flaw in the design.
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