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Old 03-14-2014, 08:51 PM   #106
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vlad i think you hit the nail on the head. crimea is gone. win win for russia i'm not sure, crimea has already cost russia over 70 billion USD in asset reinvestment to try to prop up the ruble, as well as huge losses in stock market valuations. also its not "the" ukraine. just ukraine.

south, shut the **** up. name ONE country on russia's side in this. even china wont come out in support of russias actions. you're so full of shit i can smell it from here.
Try this idiot. Name one country outside the west on the wests side. mhmm thats what I thought you POS nationalist. WAKE UP.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:57 PM   #107
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no one gives a **** about your videos of putin. shut the **** up.
LOL your so mad...I pity you, cause I know you. Im putting whats out there for everyone to see. I have a stance and I am not trying to hide that. Your stance however is based completely on western sources. My stance is based on Russian sources that not only show their point of view but address what the corporate media is trying to do and spin off as. PPL can watch both sides and CHOOSE. YEAH CHOOSE. Your position is so weak that you can't even address the so called "propaganda" of RT. Meanwhile RT and its segments of breaking the set are breaking apart western propaganda.
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AUSTRALIA

US ally and this year's head of the Group of 20, Australia has criticized the Russian move into Crimea. The Foreign Affairs Department summoned Russia's ambassador to Canberra on March 4 to question his nation's intentions.

"This is a fluid and a dangerous situation and really the only way to resolve it is for Russia to pull back," Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a March 4 television interview on Nine Network. Russia needed to "stop what appears to be a blatant aggression against a neighbor that has done nothing to justify it."

CANADA

Canada has suspended participation in a bilateral economic commission with Russia, is participating in a global military observer mission in Ukraine and has frozen assets of members of the Yanukovych government.

"Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a clear violation of international law," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said March 5.

CROATIA

Croatia's Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic was cited by the HINA news service on March 6 as calling Russia's steps "a territorial aggression" against Ukraine.

"'The situation on the ground is such that it doesn't offer much optimism about the future of Crimea," Milanovic was cited as saying.

CZECH REPUBLIC

Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka has urged Russia to follow international treaties and said the referendum on Crimea's status violates Ukrainian laws and isn't legitimate. Prague was invaded by Soviet troops in 1968.

"Russia is the one that violates the international law. At the same time, we don't belong to countries that would harass Russia with the threat of economic sanctions," Sobotka told Czech TV channel CT24 on March 9.

ESTONIA

Estonian President Toomas Ilves has said that neighboring Russia's military intervention in Crimea follows the example of the Soviet Union in 1940 when it invaded the Baltic republics and then organized a referendum to strip Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania of their independence.

"Russia is currently following the same script in Crimea and has violated all the rules, both written and unwritten," Ilves said March 8.

FINLAND

Finland's government and President Sauli Niinistoe said in a joint statement on March 2 that neighboring Russia's military measures in Crimea are a violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty.

"Russia's move to gain control over the Crimean peninsula cannot be accepted," Niinistoe said. "All parties are urged to refrain from any military or other action that might escalate the situation."

FRANCE

France's Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius has said Russia needs to end its military escalation in Crimea and urged to handle the situation through mediation. France called for the meeting of Group of Eight leaders to be suspended until Russia reverses its military intervention in Ukraine.

"If Russia doesn't back down, it risks serious consequences from Europe," Fabius said March 8.

GEORGIA

The current processes in Ukraine, namely in Crimea, have taken on a "very alarming development," President Giorgi Margvelashvili said March 1. Georgia fought a 2008 war against Russia over two separatist regions.

"We call on the international community not to allow a new conflict in Europe and to use all existing means to evade possible aggression and protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

GERMANY

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that while she prefers avoiding sanctions, events in Crimea "demand a response" by the European Union.

"There will be far-reaching change in our relations with Russia, possibly including a broad palette of economic measures, if Russia takes further destabilizing measures in Crimea in addition to those already undertaken, or takes military action," Merkel said on March 6. "I hope it doesn't get to that point. We would like to see a diplomatic process."

HUNGARY

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has urged Russia and the European Union to negotiate, adding that the security of ethnic Hungarians in neighboring Ukraine was a top priority for Budapest. Budapest was invaded by Soviet troops in 1956.

"The European Union must take immediate steps in response to Russian troop movements," Orban said on March 4. "The steps can't be of a military nature; they must be decisive, immediate and be of an integrative nature."

ITALY

Italian Premier Matteo Renzi said in a March 2 statement that Russia needs to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity and must avoid actions that would further aggravate the current crisis.

"For Italy, violation of these principles would be wholly unacceptable," Renzi said.

JAPAN

Japan signed the joint statement with fellow G-7 countries condemning Russia's "clear violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who has sought to strengthen ties with Russia amid Japan's escalating tensions with China, has held off on committing to potential US-led sanctions against Russia. Abe on March 10 called for restraint from all parties involved in the standoff and is sending his National Security Council chief to Russia to convey Japan's position.

LATVIA

Latvia, a former Soviet republic, has denounced neighboring Russia's steps as a "gross violation of international law and a direct interference in the domestic affairs of a sovereign state," in a March 1 joint statement by President Andris Berzins, speaker of parliament Solvita Aboltina, Prime Minister Laimdota Straujuma and Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics.

"Russia's arguments regarding such manner of the use of armed forces are completely unjustified and in a direct contradiction with Russia's international commitments."

LITHUANIA

President Dalia Grybauskaite has said Russia is "trying to rewrite the borders after the Second World War in Europe."

"Russia today is dangerous," she said March 6. "After Ukraine will be Moldova, and after Moldova will be different countries."

MOLDOVA

Prime Minister Iurie Leanca said Russia's incursion into Crimea was a "very dangerous development," in a March 5 interview with Bloomberg. "Its very contagious," he said.

Moldova is a former Soviet republic and Ukraine's neighbor, which has a Russian-dominated separatist region, Transnistria.

NEW ZEALAND

New Zealand condemned Russia's military intervention in Ukraine, calling it an unacceptable breach of sovereignty and territorial rights, and on March 3 the Foreign Ministry called in the Russian ambassador over the issue.

The same day, Prime Minister John Key said he instructed officials to suspend talks with Russia over a free-trade agreement, citing the situation in Ukraine. It was "not the right time" to sign an FTA with Russia, Key said.

NORWAY

Foreign Minister Boerge Brende has called on Russia to "immediately" accept Ukraine's request for negotiations and to resolve the crisis without the use of violence.

"Russia has a particular responsibility to de-escalate the tense situation," Brende said on March 2.

POLAND

Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Europe "can't buy peace with concessions" on Crimea, while urging a change in the continent's climate and energy policies to reduce dependence on its neighbor Russia's natural gas.

"This is our biggest crisis since Poland regained independence" in 1989, Tusk told lawmakers in Warsaw on March 5. "What's at stake isn't just Ukraine's future, but that of its neighbors and the whole region."

ROMANIA

Foreign Minister Titus Corlatean said Romania "firmly condemns" acts of aggression against a sovereign and independent Ukraine, its neighbor.

"The Romanian government fully supports Ukraine's territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders and condemns any attempts at secession," Corlatean said on March 10.

SINGAPORE

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's government has voiced its opposition to the "invasion" of Ukraine, saying it contravenes international law and could hurt the global economy if war breaks out.

"We condemn any unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country, whatever the pretext," Lee said in a March 6 Facebook post. Foreign Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam had said in Parliament the previous day that Russian troops shouldn't be in Ukraine as it's a breach of international law.

SWEDEN

Foreign Minister Carl Bildt has condemned Russia's actions, saying it's breaching international law.

"Russia just continues," Bildt said on Twitter on March 9. "Prepares annexation of Crimea. Clearly wants regime change in Kiev. But highly likely to fail."

SWITZERLAND

President and Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter has urged Russia to respect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine "within its existing and internationally recognized borders."

"It is important that we unite our efforts to support Ukraine in this difficult period," he said in a March 3 speech.

TURKEY

Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on March 3 the country, which lies across the Black Sea from the Crimean region, "will make every effort to secure Crimea's future within Ukraine's territorial integrity." The Crimea is home to the minority Tatar community whose Turkic-speaking Muslim state was annexed by Russia in the 18th century.

THE EUROPEAN UNION

The leaders of the 28-member European Union suspended trade and visa liberalization negotiations with Russia and threatened "additional and far reaching consequences" should Russia further destabilize Ukraine. The EU is considering a second- stage of sanctions including asset freezes and travel banks of unnamed Russian officials.

"We strongly condemn Russia's unprovoked violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity," European Union President Herman Van Rompuy said after the March 6 emergency summit in Brussels. "We call on Russia to immediately withdraw its armed forces; and allow immediate access for international monitors."

UNITED KINGDOM

Britain argues any referendum vote in Crimea will be "farcical," "illegal" and "illegitimate" and calls on Russia to de-escalate its aggression and signal it understands the outcome won't be binding.

"I am not interested in a tug of war," Prime Minister David Cameron said on March 10. "Ukraine should be able to choose its own future and act as a bridge between Russia and Europe."

Britain is providing technical assistance to Ukraine to support elections and assist with public financial management, debt management and energy pricing.

UNITED STATES

The US says that Russia has invaded Crimea in violation of several accords protecting Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The US agrees with the new Kiev government that the planned Crimea referendum on joining Russia violates the Ukrainian constitution and that any such vote should be held nationwide.

The US wants the referendum to be canceled and Russia to pull back its forces to Russia or to authorized Russian bases in Crimea, where Russia maintains a major naval base that is home to its Black Sea fleet. On March 6, President Obama signed an executive order that authorizes sanctions on individuals and entities "responsible for violating the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, or for stealing the assets of the Ukrainian people."

"President Obama has been clear that we cannot allow Russia or any country to defy international law with impunity," Secretary of State John Kerry said March 6 in Rome. "There's no place in the community of nations for the kind of aggression and steps that we have seen taken in Crimea in Ukraine in these last days."
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AUSTRALIA

US ally and this year's head of the Group of 20, Australia has criticized the Russian move into Crimea. The Foreign Affairs Department summoned Russia's ambassador to Canberra on March 4 to question his nation's intentions.

"This is a fluid and a dangerous situation and really the only way to resolve it is for Russia to pull back," Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a March 4 television interview on Nine Network. Russia needed to "stop what appears to be a blatant aggression against a neighbor that has done nothing to justify it."

CANADA

Canada has suspended participation in a bilateral economic commission with Russia, is participating in a global military observer mission in Ukraine and has frozen assets of members of the Yanukovych government.

"Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a clear violation of international law," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said March 5.

CROATIA

Croatia's Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic was cited by the HINA news service on March 6 as calling Russia's steps "a territorial aggression" against Ukraine.

"'The situation on the ground is such that it doesn't offer much optimism about the future of Crimea," Milanovic was cited as saying.

CZECH REPUBLIC

Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka has urged Russia to follow international treaties and said the referendum on Crimea's status violates Ukrainian laws and isn't legitimate. Prague was invaded by Soviet troops in 1968.

"Russia is the one that violates the international law. At the same time, we don't belong to countries that would harass Russia with the threat of economic sanctions," Sobotka told Czech TV channel CT24 on March 9.

ESTONIA

Estonian President Toomas Ilves has said that neighboring Russia's military intervention in Crimea follows the example of the Soviet Union in 1940 when it invaded the Baltic republics and then organized a referendum to strip Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania of their independence.

"Russia is currently following the same script in Crimea and has violated all the rules, both written and unwritten," Ilves said March 8.

FINLAND

Finland's government and President Sauli Niinistoe said in a joint statement on March 2 that neighboring Russia's military measures in Crimea are a violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty.

"Russia's move to gain control over the Crimean peninsula cannot be accepted," Niinistoe said. "All parties are urged to refrain from any military or other action that might escalate the situation."

FRANCE

France's Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius has said Russia needs to end its military escalation in Crimea and urged to handle the situation through mediation. France called for the meeting of Group of Eight leaders to be suspended until Russia reverses its military intervention in Ukraine.

"If Russia doesn't back down, it risks serious consequences from Europe," Fabius said March 8.

GEORGIA

The current processes in Ukraine, namely in Crimea, have taken on a "very alarming development," President Giorgi Margvelashvili said March 1. Georgia fought a 2008 war against Russia over two separatist regions.

"We call on the international community not to allow a new conflict in Europe and to use all existing means to evade possible aggression and protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

GERMANY

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that while she prefers avoiding sanctions, events in Crimea "demand a response" by the European Union.

"There will be far-reaching change in our relations with Russia, possibly including a broad palette of economic measures, if Russia takes further destabilizing measures in Crimea in addition to those already undertaken, or takes military action," Merkel said on March 6. "I hope it doesn't get to that point. We would like to see a diplomatic process."

HUNGARY

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has urged Russia and the European Union to negotiate, adding that the security of ethnic Hungarians in neighboring Ukraine was a top priority for Budapest. Budapest was invaded by Soviet troops in 1956.

"The European Union must take immediate steps in response to Russian troop movements," Orban said on March 4. "The steps can't be of a military nature; they must be decisive, immediate and be of an integrative nature."

ITALY

Italian Premier Matteo Renzi said in a March 2 statement that Russia needs to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity and must avoid actions that would further aggravate the current crisis.

"For Italy, violation of these principles would be wholly unacceptable," Renzi said.

JAPAN

Japan signed the joint statement with fellow G-7 countries condemning Russia's "clear violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who has sought to strengthen ties with Russia amid Japan's escalating tensions with China, has held off on committing to potential US-led sanctions against Russia. Abe on March 10 called for restraint from all parties involved in the standoff and is sending his National Security Council chief to Russia to convey Japan's position.

LATVIA

Latvia, a former Soviet republic, has denounced neighboring Russia's steps as a "gross violation of international law and a direct interference in the domestic affairs of a sovereign state," in a March 1 joint statement by President Andris Berzins, speaker of parliament Solvita Aboltina, Prime Minister Laimdota Straujuma and Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics.

"Russia's arguments regarding such manner of the use of armed forces are completely unjustified and in a direct contradiction with Russia's international commitments."

LITHUANIA

President Dalia Grybauskaite has said Russia is "trying to rewrite the borders after the Second World War in Europe."

"Russia today is dangerous," she said March 6. "After Ukraine will be Moldova, and after Moldova will be different countries."

MOLDOVA

Prime Minister Iurie Leanca said Russia's incursion into Crimea was a "very dangerous development," in a March 5 interview with Bloomberg. "Its very contagious," he said.

Moldova is a former Soviet republic and Ukraine's neighbor, which has a Russian-dominated separatist region, Transnistria.

NEW ZEALAND

New Zealand condemned Russia's military intervention in Ukraine, calling it an unacceptable breach of sovereignty and territorial rights, and on March 3 the Foreign Ministry called in the Russian ambassador over the issue.

The same day, Prime Minister John Key said he instructed officials to suspend talks with Russia over a free-trade agreement, citing the situation in Ukraine. It was "not the right time" to sign an FTA with Russia, Key said.

NORWAY

Foreign Minister Boerge Brende has called on Russia to "immediately" accept Ukraine's request for negotiations and to resolve the crisis without the use of violence.

"Russia has a particular responsibility to de-escalate the tense situation," Brende said on March 2.

POLAND

Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Europe "can't buy peace with concessions" on Crimea, while urging a change in the continent's climate and energy policies to reduce dependence on its neighbor Russia's natural gas.

"This is our biggest crisis since Poland regained independence" in 1989, Tusk told lawmakers in Warsaw on March 5. "What's at stake isn't just Ukraine's future, but that of its neighbors and the whole region."

ROMANIA

Foreign Minister Titus Corlatean said Romania "firmly condemns" acts of aggression against a sovereign and independent Ukraine, its neighbor.

"The Romanian government fully supports Ukraine's territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders and condemns any attempts at secession," Corlatean said on March 10.

SINGAPORE

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's government has voiced its opposition to the "invasion" of Ukraine, saying it contravenes international law and could hurt the global economy if war breaks out.

"We condemn any unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country, whatever the pretext," Lee said in a March 6 Facebook post. Foreign Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam had said in Parliament the previous day that Russian troops shouldn't be in Ukraine as it's a breach of international law.

SWEDEN

Foreign Minister Carl Bildt has condemned Russia's actions, saying it's breaching international law.

"Russia just continues," Bildt said on Twitter on March 9. "Prepares annexation of Crimea. Clearly wants regime change in Kiev. But highly likely to fail."

SWITZERLAND

President and Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter has urged Russia to respect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine "within its existing and internationally recognized borders."

"It is important that we unite our efforts to support Ukraine in this difficult period," he said in a March 3 speech.

TURKEY

Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on March 3 the country, which lies across the Black Sea from the Crimean region, "will make every effort to secure Crimea's future within Ukraine's territorial integrity." The Crimea is home to the minority Tatar community whose Turkic-speaking Muslim state was annexed by Russia in the 18th century.

THE EUROPEAN UNION

The leaders of the 28-member European Union suspended trade and visa liberalization negotiations with Russia and threatened "additional and far reaching consequences" should Russia further destabilize Ukraine. The EU is considering a second- stage of sanctions including asset freezes and travel banks of unnamed Russian officials.

"We strongly condemn Russia's unprovoked violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity," European Union President Herman Van Rompuy said after the March 6 emergency summit in Brussels. "We call on Russia to immediately withdraw its armed forces; and allow immediate access for international monitors."

UNITED KINGDOM

Britain argues any referendum vote in Crimea will be "farcical," "illegal" and "illegitimate" and calls on Russia to de-escalate its aggression and signal it understands the outcome won't be binding.

"I am not interested in a tug of war," Prime Minister David Cameron said on March 10. "Ukraine should be able to choose its own future and act as a bridge between Russia and Europe."

Britain is providing technical assistance to Ukraine to support elections and assist with public financial management, debt management and energy pricing.

UNITED STATES

The US says that Russia has invaded Crimea in violation of several accords protecting Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. The US agrees with the new Kiev government that the planned Crimea referendum on joining Russia violates the Ukrainian constitution and that any such vote should be held nationwide.

The US wants the referendum to be canceled and Russia to pull back its forces to Russia or to authorized Russian bases in Crimea, where Russia maintains a major naval base that is home to its Black Sea fleet. On March 6, President Obama signed an executive order that authorizes sanctions on individuals and entities "responsible for violating the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, or for stealing the assets of the Ukrainian people."

"President Obama has been clear that we cannot allow Russia or any country to defy international law with impunity," Secretary of State John Kerry said March 6 in Rome. "There's no place in the community of nations for the kind of aggression and steps that we have seen taken in Crimea in Ukraine in these last days."
Thanks for making clear to everyone exactly how much is the west these days haha
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this is an anti-crimean invasion protest in moscow.


russia invaded kherson oblast today in mainland ukraine. there will be blood.
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:37 AM   #114
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...well other than the realities people are struggling to choose over Ukraine....is it true the interim government and its right sector and one of their leaders Dmytro Yarosh is threatening to blow up the pipelines, just to hurt Russia? I like how the media is reporting the composition of the recent Serbian parliament and elections, and how they have for most other governments around the world, but not this new western backed one in Ukraine that came to power violently, unconstitutionally, recently. BBC WHY dont you report about the composition of the new people in power in Ukraine, I don't care about Serbias continual kneeling to join the EU, the west already ****ed it numerous times. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26598829

I wonder fantastically here, what if the new western backed government in Ukraine does blow the pipelines, would it collapse the economy in the EU (the world by connection?) and/or triggers civil war with Russia. You guys think that amount of gas just stopping would have such a bad effect? You guys think Russia would send its military to protect the pipelines or just let it happen? And how many of those EU countries are going to keep supporting people who threaten their gas supply?

I am just glad that Kosovo, has at least, come back to bite the west in the ass. Love RTs use of what Obama and past presidents of America video footage of them supporting peoples right to determination in Kosovo and other violations of sovereign territory. History repeats itself. EU countries should know better, the treaty of Westphalia was signed in the 1600s after 30 years of warring. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia. 30 years of other countries invading other countries for land and power under any pretexts they could find. Including ideological ones and religious ones. Modern day US is all like " Ukraine we need your strategic location over Russia and we also need you to join our economic sphere of control and ideology"...we'll publicly support opposition leaders, we'll send you McCain....and when you guys take over power we'll spin it off as legit and blame our ideological enemy. The US has violated Ukrainian sovereignty long before February, when its ideological leaders like McCain were grooming and supporting the people now in power. They then violated Ukraine's sovereignty when they immediately recognized the coup d'tat as legitimate and representative. Did that 1 billion loan go through yet, that the west said they'll give the interim gov? So yeah I like all that, and then watching western media talk about Russia violating Ukrainian sovereignty in Crimea, Crimean s whom were in the streets supporting Russia and condemning the new ppl in Kiev. lol its like this is all really ok because the west and their ideology and freedom spreading(hah), is the one people need, and those who do undemocratic things like Putin to combat us and our ideology will be our public undemocratic villain. "Cuz, like, come on, you knoooow=In the 21st century everyone knows democracy is the best, and everyone knows America is the champion for it in the world." Literally ppl, mostly girls, say this sort of thing.

Now I like watching western leaders already saying like Harper that the referundum in Crimea is a sham, just a result of being under Russian military occupation. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...aine-1.2575128 At least wait for your so called "non-governmental organizations" (NGOs) to say it first lol. Or wait is it being claimed that the OSCE was being barred from Crimea to observe? Russia claims they said to go observe. blah blah blah the math is simple. Crimeans and a lot of East and South Ukraine been in the streets calling the people in Kiev fascists, saying it was coup, supporting Russia (or if you choose to believe, this is all RT propaganda, all those Russian flags and people int he streets of Crimea and Donestk and what they say is all are staged, ). Then Crimean parliament says they will hold referendum in ten days, which was yesterday, and it looks like most voted to join Russia. So CBC 4 hours ago is reporting that HARPER is saying "The so-called referendum held today was conducted with Crimea under illegal military occupation. Its results are a reflection of nothing more than Russian military control," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said in a statement.....is just too much (motioning hand above head). Oh and what is this moving of heavy military equipment to eastern Ukraine from Kiev, luckily pro-russian or anti EU Ukrainian self defense groups (or if you choose to believe Russia military) turned them back from getting closer to the border.

Meanwhile we got brainwashed sheep infront of Russia's consulate in Ottawa with signs holding "Putin, hands off Ukraine". Hey propr'one why don't you join those guys and circle jerk each other. One sheep would go "oh you think Putin is Hitler too?", propr'one would go "ME TOO!, here's a handjob!" . Or for what ever passes for intelligent conversation would just be restricted to what they have been fed by american tv, over all those decades...who really cares...anyway after how many weeks at least all this recording and saving all the news from both sides since mid February is mean I am going to have a real easy time dominating sheep and professors, who I wish were "batwing crazy socialists" that prop imagines my university has.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26566452

I like how the BBC reports the opinion of this man. Who obviously doesn't know that there were guns by Euro maiden people inside Kiev's parliament, and that there were some MPs literally being bullied by Euromaiden gunmen around them.

But on the streets of Moscow there are also plenty of people who are deeply concerned by Russia's intervention in Crimea and the plan to hold a referendum with heavily armed troops there.

"You can't solve the situation with a gun near people's heads'" said one man.


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South, you're actually F**CKED up bro... you have a really deep and disturbing hate for Ukraine. Holy shit some of the stuff you wrote is hate crimes son.
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start at 30 minutes if you want to hear what the west has been doing around the world the past 20 years.
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:36 PM   #118
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Conflict started with western Ukrainians wanting to join the EU trade agreement. They occupied Kiev and got what they want through force. The other half of Ukraine, which also were the parts that most voted for Yanukovich, were not represented in Kiev. Crimea voted to leave in response.

Now while the west and its media are crying over Crimea, none seem to be able to point out the danger of pushing forward to EU trade agreement with an interim and illegal unelected government. Dangerous because we know half of Ukraine isn't on that side or represented in Kiev. Well IMF http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26764262 is sharking out 15 billion. Pity those pro western Ukrainians who have no idea the economic hell their country is going to go through. And pray for those eastern and southern Ukrainians who now have to make tough decisions of whether to follow Kiev or not.

Meanwhile Obama is touring Europe and telling everyone that "countries cannot bully others to get what they want simply because they are stronger, might does not make right"...referencing Russia over Crimea. And before we mention Iraq, Obama talks about how Iraq was different because "we did it under international framework of cooperation and we left Iraq a sovereign democratic state". Cry or laugh.

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Old 03-27-2014, 08:01 PM   #119
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dude no one cares about you, you post articles from heavily biased and extremely pro russian news sources you probably jerk off to putin riding horseback shirtless. everything you wrote above is false and exactly how the russian media reports it. its impossible to speak to you about this because you have tunnel vision and then going into personal attacks and posts filled with hate towards ukraine. id rather ukraine lives as shitty as people do in western EU countries and in America than as amazing as people live in Russia
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:10 PM   #120
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dude no one cares about you, you post articles from heavily biased and extremely pro russian news sources you probably jerk off to putin riding horseback shirtless. everything you wrote above is false and exactly how the russian media reports it. its impossible to speak to you about this because you have tunnel vision and then going into personal attacks and posts filled with hate towards ukraine. id rather ukraine lives as shitty as people do in western EU countries and in America than as amazing as people live in Russia
I get it you think the west is living an American dream. And your speaking about yourself.

Right Russia is lying when it reports that Obama is lying about Kosovo having a referundum. Thats just history. The fact Russia reports it doesn't make it untrue as hard as it is for you to grasp that.
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