Click to go to Forum Home Click to go to maXbimmer Home

Go Back   maXbimmer Forums > General > General Discussion
User Name
Password


Welcome to Maxbimmer.com!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-02-2011, 10:21 AM   #1
ItsPat
n00b
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 52
Newb, hopeful first time BMW owner



Hey guys, you probably get a million fly by night newbs so I'll try and keep this short - after growing up with domestics for the most part in the family (some good - early 90's Vette belonging to my father for a period of time, some not so good - the first car I remember was my mom's 80's Pontiac 6000) it's time to get myself a 3-series.

My dad owned a 3-series in the 80's which I never saw, and more recently my sister got herself a 325i followed by an X5 to tote the kids around in. Between domestics my dad also leased a Saab 93 supercharged when they briefly re-established their cars in Canada. So I've had a taste of European cars but like I said, for the most part it's been budget domestics which is all fine and dandy until you really want to do some driving. I've driven BMWs only sparsely but it's safe to say I'm addicted...

SO - I'm 26 now, I'm not a tuner, not a track guy, I do however do a fair bit of mileage for business so I'm looking to upgrade from my own beater domestic to an entry level 3-series of some kind within the next 4-6weeks.

Manual transmission is a must, prefer RWD over AWD just for fuel economy, I don't necessarily need a turbocharged car either...blasphemy perhaps... I'd love to find a 2006+ but my ghetto budget is only $15-17k so I may be a bit challenged there. My plan is to drive the car for about 4 years and by the time I'm 30 I'll be looking for an upgrade.

My question for you guys is - in my budget (I can always go lower than $15k) what would be the thing to look for? an early 2000's or should I hold out for the redesigned 2006+ models? Are high kilometers something to be nervous about? Any model years notorious for problems? Any/all tips and advice is much appreciated. TIA, glad to be here.
ItsPat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2011, 10:33 PM   #2
dble Trouble
TAKE IT TO THE TRACK
 
dble Trouble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 1,867
2006 330 is a great car. That's the one I'd go for with that budget. Stay away from the smaller engines as they are not that much better on fuel and are a bore to drive. Anyone with a smaller engine is always asking about go faster parts so just start off there. Reliablilty is reasonably good and parts are not as expensive as most domestic guys think. Mileage is not an issue if the car has been maintained. Expect these cars to go 300,000 km no problem some even see 500,000km.....
__________________

BMW 325I E30 Chumpcar Race Car
BMW 540iT M-Sport (New Family Hauler)
BMW 135i Msport Daily/track toy
dble Trouble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2011, 09:36 AM   #3
ItsPat
n00b
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 52
Thanks, appreciate the input. I've definitely been hunting around for that car and it's been hard to find over the past 6 weeks or so. TONS of 325i and 323i in automatic but not so many 328 or 330 in standard. I'll keep looking and update with what I find. Cheers
ItsPat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2011, 10:04 AM   #4
MarkD
Banned
 
MarkD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: In Your DME!
Posts: 2,404
Find a broker who can search for cars coming off lease from BMW financial, that is what I did. I used Willz.ca but George at SIMPLY CARS can provide that service also. Try to find one that still has at least 6 months of warranty.
MarkD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2011, 11:30 AM   #5
new member
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 329
For 15-17k I dont see yourself getting into a '06+ . With that kind of budged I'd recommend buying a car upto '06.

Look for a 2003-2006 , you should EASILY be able to get one with low miles upto 100kms for your budget.

If you really want an '06+ it'll be a higher mileage car, or you need to build up your budged a bit more, to lets say 25k.
new member is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2011, 06:28 PM   #6
dble Trouble
TAKE IT TO THE TRACK
 
dble Trouble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 1,867
You CAN find e90's in that price range if you look accordingly. The problem with '05 and older is that they are e46's which are no where near as good a platform.
__________________

BMW 325I E30 Chumpcar Race Car
BMW 540iT M-Sport (New Family Hauler)
BMW 135i Msport Daily/track toy
dble Trouble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 12:08 AM   #7
new member
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 329
Quote:
Originally Posted by dble Trouble View Post
You CAN find e90's in that price range if you look accordingly. The problem with '05 and older is that they are e46's which are no where near as good a platform.
Sure you can find an E90 for 15-17K, but those are going to be first year pre-facelift E90s with a billion of miles. If you want that, by all means go ahead and buy it. lol
new member is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 12:17 AM   #8
dble Trouble
TAKE IT TO THE TRACK
 
dble Trouble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 1,867
Pre facelift yes, I don't see anything wrong with that it's still a nice looking car, mileage usually in the 125-160ish range. On a BMW that's just broken in. I bought my car with 232000 on it and now I'm rolling with 335000km.
__________________

BMW 325I E30 Chumpcar Race Car
BMW 540iT M-Sport (New Family Hauler)
BMW 135i Msport Daily/track toy
dble Trouble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 12:51 AM   #9
new member
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 329
Quote:
Originally Posted by dble Trouble View Post
Pre facelift yes, I don't see anything wrong with that it's still a nice looking car, mileage usually in the 125-160ish range. On a BMW that's just broken in. I bought my car with 232000 on it and now I'm rolling with 335000km.
Did you buy your car for 15-17k ? I think not.

See my point.

I dont doubt on BMW reliability, my buddy is at 370kms and counting, that was not the point.
new member is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 12:54 AM   #10
dble Trouble
TAKE IT TO THE TRACK
 
dble Trouble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 1,867
I know exactly what the point is, I think you're missing the point. His budget is up to 17k. Are there '06 330's available for that amount yes. Are they going to have 80,000km on them, not likely, more like 160,000km. Is that a problem, no. So where's your point?
__________________

BMW 325I E30 Chumpcar Race Car
BMW 540iT M-Sport (New Family Hauler)
BMW 135i Msport Daily/track toy
dble Trouble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 02:10 AM   #11
new member
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 329
My point is that its too much monies for too little of a car. First year model, no option, high mileage. Some may like it and some may not. I bet you would never in the world pay that much.

Simple and straightforward.
new member is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 02:49 AM   #12
Bimmer Heaven
MaXsponsor
 
Bimmer Heaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ontario
Posts: 15,672
Best bet is a LOW milage original E46 with all records. With that budget you wont have problems finding one, but do a good check on it, to make sure it all adds up. Will be far more reliable then a cheap E90!
__________________
BIMMER HEAVEN
Specialized in BMW recycling, all OEM used parts
Up to 90% off new cost!!!
Most models E30 E36 E46 E90 E92 E93 E28 E24 E34 E39 E60 E61 E32 E38 E65 E66 X3 X5 M3 M5 Z3 Z4 F30 F32 F10 F01


Call 11-8PM 416 821-2578
New inventory daily. 100+ cars now in stock!
Bimmer Heaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 01:27 PM   #13
ItsPat
n00b
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 52
Thanks again for the help guys...a small update:

Went to the bank yesterday and on a car loan they can actually give me a half decent interest rate but it would have to be a 'secured' loan meaning the car is 2006 or newer.

I don't mind spending a bit more money to get that '06 but if you guys think I'd be paying more money for less car, I might as well go to the previous generation right? Don't get me wrong I love the previous styling and I'll take your guys' word for it that the cars were still solid, I was just thinking about resale which may/may not even be an issue four years down the road...

Also: could you provide some insight on the 'pre-facelift' comment above? IIRC the 3-series were restyled in 2006 right? Was there a facelift for '07 or...? TIA
ItsPat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 02:24 PM   #14
damameke
6th Gear Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,367
[QUOTE=ItsPat;1498977]Also: could you provide some insight on the 'pre-facelift' comment above? IIRC the 3-series were restyled in 2006 right?/QUOTE]

U r right.. so its up till 2005, E46.. should be able to buy within your budget...

Nice to have some suggestions from members here and you are going to run into opinions on which model year is good within the price you want to spend..ultimately buy the BMW YOU want to drive.....
damameke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 02:25 PM   #15
new member
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: GTA
Posts: 329
'06+ # series models are called E90 (sedan) E92 (coupe)

Almost every single BMW model has an "update" midlife its cycle. its called facelift, where the car's major issues are resolved and worked out, also a few exterior changes are made.
E90 had a facelift in '09
E92 in 2011
new member is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Maxbimmer Copyright 2001 - 2018