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Old 06-01-2016, 03:41 PM   #16
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Ha ha.... When I was 16, I loved jeeps and trucks too.

It's still the same deal... Save dough by doing your own work...
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:14 PM   #17
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thanks EVERYONE for all the useful info but ive changed my mind. If im going to be spending a lot of money in repairs i would like to be doing it on something i really really like. I noticed theres a lot of variety for BMW X5 1999-2004 For under 5000. Im definately going to look more into that as i LOVE those suvs.
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Uh, what? That's a horrible idea, as bad as it sounds. Take everything you were expecting to spend and triple it then.
TSI is right, X5 is many times worse than an E46 in reliability terms, and cost of ownership (brakes, bad MPG, etc).

If you spend 6-8k, you should be able to find a well maintained E46. That said anything can still go wrong.
Same goes for a Lexus or Infinity. All companies have issues, some are just less likely than others.

The key for you is to set aside $2k for repairs if needed. Better than getting a used car warranty.
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Old 06-02-2016, 08:49 AM   #18
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Kid... you're 16. Unless mommy and daddy are bank rolling your car, you might want to set your sights a little lower... there's a guy on R3V who has a great sig... if it's got wheels or tits, it's gonna cost you. Consider that Lexus and Infiniti are also luxury brands. *SMH*
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:36 AM   #19
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I guess i wont be looking at bmws and will continue to look at Lexus GS300 and. Infiniti g35 which is probably way cheaper to own, Instead... Thanks.
LOL! You have no idea what you're in for with an Infiniti.

Set your sights a little lower & more realistic.
You should be looking at Civic / Corolla type of cars.
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:46 AM   #20
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I for sure don't want a 320i ...and also I don't want a sedan unless it already has sport rims or any nice rims on...
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if it's got wheels or tits, it's gonna cost you.
He's 16.... the problem is that he wants the wheels so that he can get the tits... so it's going to end up costing him double!


Buy an old shitbox for $1500 and spend the other $3000 buying parts, tools, learning how to fix it and keep it running reliably. That'll be a much more valuable life experience than trying to get a nice car with nice rims so that you can hook up with the local chicken heads.
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Buy an old shitbox for $1500 and spend the other $3000 buying parts, tools, learning how to fix it and keep it running reliably. That'll be a much more valuable life experience than trying to get a nice car with nice rims so that you can hook up with the local chicken heads.
This is the way to go. Alternative is to get a used Fiesta.
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Best starter BMW you can buy for <$5k is a clean E30 ... take care of it and it will actually hold its value!

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true
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Best starter BMW you can buy for <$5k is a clean E30 ... take care of it and it will actually hold its value!

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true
Kind of a death trap for a new driver though... no?
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Kind of a death trap for a new driver though... no?
Debatable.

IMO it's a fun car to drive, but too slow to get you into that much trouble, and from what I've seen E30's stand up pretty decent in collisions that occur at regular speeds. It's a great car to learn basic mechanical skills because it's a relatively simple design and easy to work on. It's also a great car to come out to autoslalom with and learn proper car control skills.

If you're just worried about other people T-boning you then you'll probably never drive an old car ever...
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Debatable.

IMO it's a fun car to drive, but too slow to get you into that much trouble, and from what I've seen E30's stand up pretty decent in collisions that occur at regular speeds. It's a great car to learn basic mechanical skills because it's a relatively simple design and easy to work on. It's also a great car to come out to autoslalom with and learn proper car control skills.

If you're just worried about other people T-boning you then you'll probably never drive an old car ever...
E30 is definitely fun (and the one I would want), but 30 years of safety has come a long way.

If it was my kid I wouldn't put them in anything less than an E46 (after airbags are replaced ) or more likely a newer used Focus/Fiesta.
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E46?? Full circle!!!

OP - please re-read the second post.... the part about DIY and go shopping

When the car is sad (broken) we'll help you...right everyone? Again, you're welcome to come wrench at my place....
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E46?? Full circle!!!

OP - please re-read the second post.... the part about DIY and go shopping

When the car is sad (broken) we'll help you...right everyone? Again, you're welcome to come wrench at my place....
I have the money and ability to wrench in my E46
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Best starter BMW you can buy for <$5k is a clean E30 ... take care of it and it will actually hold its value!
I would not give my kid an E30.
Poor safety, high potential for rust, not all had ABS / traction control.

FWIW, the E30 achieved 3/5 frontal crash rating in 1990!.
That said, they were safer than many of the Jap econoboxes of the same era.
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E46?? Full circle!!!

OP - please re-read the second post.... the part about DIY and go shopping

When the car is sad (broken) we'll help you...right everyone? Again, you're welcome to come wrench at my place....
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I have the money and ability to wrench in my E46
Me too... I'm just cheap
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:45 PM   #30
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This will give you an idea of repair costs. Most of that is due to luxury car mechanic costs.

http://twocents.lifehacker.com/the-c...ver-1781639773

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