Need for Speed

GEEFUNK · 09-16-2002, 10:56 AM

Just got info about MaxBimmer. Met some of you at First episode. I wanted to go to the cruize to Mosport, but missed the time of departure. Anyway I'll be there for the next one for sure.

Maxbimmer looks great! It is very refreshing to find a lot of Bimmer fanatics. Count me in for all events.

About my ride...I'm just starting to supe it. (My car is automatic. Has Angel eyes, Intake & Exhaust). Next spring dumping a whole lot of $$$ in my ride.... For anybody who can help me get some info. I already pretty much got things for the look I'm searching for, I just need some assistance on SPEED. Where do I begin and how much speed can I get. I want it CRAZYFAST!

Need some suggestions.

GEEFUNK

330DTM · 09-16-2002, 11:09 AM

Well first of all, if you want "crazy" speed then you should look into the Superchargers by ESS Tuning, ERT, Montronix, RMS, etc. or Turbochargers by Autoactivewerks.

However, if you do consider this alternative, you may want to look into a stronger tranny system. I don't know if the stock auto tranny on the 328s can handle the power increase from a turbocharger stage I. I think it can for the superchargers though?!

What's your desire anyways? It seems to me that all you want is straight line speed power, correct?

Then again, money is another issuse, how much do you plan on spending? The more money you put in, the more you can do.

Other alternatives to make the car "slightly" quicker is to change the differential, but you'll lose some top end speed as a result from that. If you still want speed, why not strip the interior of your car? Make it lighter

add some carbon fibre body panels if you want.

GEEFUNK · 09-16-2002, 11:46 AM

Thanks for the ideas...I basically want a nice boost from the start (as everyone knows, Automatic has no torque!)( unless you hold the break, press the gas, blah, blah, blah).... I just want to be able to slam that gas pedal to the floor and take off. Also, have my car able to run a nice or great 1/4 mile run. Probably, looking to spend 3-5 GEES next spring on speed. Just preparing now...

How much does a turbo cost for may ride?
...apperciate all da help.
GEEFUNK

Harry · 09-16-2002, 12:11 PM

Turbo for your car is about $7k USD.. a little out of your range. You can always do a tranny swap and go for a 5-speed. I've been told this runs around $1500 to do. The differential is a much cheaper alternative and is refered to as the 'poor mans supercharger'. I think it runs in the neighborhood of $1000 or so, but I am not positive.

330DTM · 09-16-2002, 02:16 PM

yeah, or you could always go via NOS,
but if I can recall, I think it kills your o2 sensors!

If you're keeping the auto tranny, then maybe a differential would be helpful. Same with a reprogramed ECU for the auto tranny.

You could always do some work on the cams ?!

***Gamite*** · 09-16-2002, 02:25 PM

I think a differential will be out of the question, automatics use high diff's,

318 is 4.44
mine is 4.27

I dont think they make higher ones.

330DTM · 09-16-2002, 04:06 PM

stock e36 auto 325/328 uses 3.91.
Korman's site recommends to use the 4.27! But you can go as high as 4.45
http://www.kormanfastbmw.com/e36drive.htm

Jon@Bimmersport · 09-16-2002, 04:19 PM

why not convert it to manual, and having an m3 diff put in? u cud always do wat notjoe did..he got an auto 328i and his is amazing! it pulls in the street and on the hwy! u shud also maybe remove the sound deadening material n stuff...if u dont mind gutting ur 328..remove the trunk carpet n rear seats. i know some people who remove a/c, sound system, seats, whole interiors etc. and adding to the fact u want crazy fast...if u got money to burn...drop a 3.2L m3 motor and try a twin turbo system like Van has on hers, or is heres the 3.0L motor? PM Van and also notjoe for info...

M50E30 · 09-16-2002, 05:13 PM

If you are going to do it right then the auto tranny HAS to go! It is a weak link in your driveline and you don't want to be replacing that ($$$). Do the 5-speed manual conversion and limited slip diff (if you don't have one) and see how you like it. Get used to the cars new "found" power after the tranny swap and build up the funds again.

Good luck and have fun!,
Dave

Check out:

http://www.kormanfastbmw.com/turbos.htm

330DTM · 09-16-2002, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by E46_lover
why not convert it to manual, and having an m3 diff put in

Or why not convert it to a manual then using the 3.23 or 3.46 diff vs. the m3 which is 3.15 I think or was it 2.93?

As you can see GEEFUNK, there are many routes to pursue, it's just all up to you now, good luck my man!

**thinair** · 09-16-2002, 09:54 PM

95 M3 diff is 3.15
the 328's have the 2.93

Jon@Bimmersport · 09-16-2002, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 328DTM

Or why not convert it to a manual then using the 3.23 or 3.46 diff vs. the m3 which is 3.15 I think or was it 2.93?

doesnt the m3 diff have the best top speed and accelleration combo for those diffs?? i think he'd wanna hwy race too..so top speed is necessary...but so is accelleration

Harry · 09-16-2002, 11:10 PM

top speed and acceleration in a diff do not go hand in hand, its one or the other.

GEEFUNK · 09-17-2002, 03:58 PM

Thanks for all your help guys...But I seriously need to think this through. I was planning to put a chip in and save my ass off for a turbo. But I don't even know where to begin and i don't even know how many horses I can get out of it...?

Plus if I do get the turbo, do I have to get anything else to compensate for that power my car is going to experience?

Anyway I'll see and talk to you guys in person at the next cruise or event.. Thanks,

GEEFUNK

330DTM · 09-18-2002, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GEEFUNK
Thanks for all your help guys...But I seriously need to think this through. I was planning to put a chip in and save my ass off for a turbo. But I don't even know where to begin and i don't even know how many horses I can get out of it...?

Plus if I do get the turbo, do I have to get anything else to compensate for that power my car is going to experience?

Anyway I'll see and talk to you guys in person at the next cruise or event.. Thanks,

GEEFUNK

Even if you chip your car, knowing that it's an OBD II car, you won't expect large gains. Minimal gains. For a turbocharging, if you get a kit by AutoActiveworks, it usually includes all the necessary components needed to install the turbo kit.
Same with is you go via. supercharger!

Don't expect big gains from chip + intake + exhaust, cuz we're the OBD II cars