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Old 12-21-2005, 11:59 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by sirex
The healthcare system may suck in low populated areas, but in toronto it is top notch. No one I know has ever had problems with hospitals in Toronto.. They have always gotten top notch service... And im not talking about people that go to hospitals for broken arms.. Im talking aboout kimo/caner patients, and people htat have been in severe accidents..

You seem to be repeating waht Bill Orielly is always spouting on his TV show about how the Canadian system sucks blah blah... But you know, its only in the states with their privatized health care (FOR PROFIT) that actually kills many people because they cant afford 200,000$ to operate.

so really I dont know how its the worst in the world.

there are many issues that need to be solved unfortunately it all comes down to oppurtunity cost.. We cant have everything being awesome... It is just not possible.
Top notch? Tell that to my co-worker that waited 6 months for a much needed knee operation. or the huge list of people waiting 4+ months for an MRI.

You seem to be one of the only people that dosen't recognise a problem. because even every political party agrees there is a serious health care problem in this country.

Here are some interesting facts about the Canadian health care system....

1. We are the last industrialized nation in the world to not allow some sort of parallel private health care for it's citizens.

2. Canada has the 2nd most expensive health care system of it's kind out of all industrialized nations in the world. 2nd only to Iceland.

3. Canada's doctors are among some of the lowest paid in the g7 nations. And as a result we have a serious problem with the effect of "brain drain" where-by some of our most experienced and well trained medical staff seeks employment in other countries. Hence, reducing our availability to the best quality service we deserve.

4. The Canadian courts rulled that the current healthcare system is actually defying the Canadian charter of right's and freedom's in that it deny's the fundamental right of people to timely medical care, wheather it be public or private. (so the courts think there is a problem too).

5. The whole idea of a outlawed private healthcare system is actually as close as you can get to a comunist system as possible. One of the fundamental priciples of a capitalist scociety is the concept of worker motivation, where-by people work harder to enjoy a better standard of living. By outlawing private health care, they take away the fundamental right of people to spend their own money as they see fit. People seem to accept it in every other aspect of our lives (we are on a BMW forum) so why should we accept less for our health.

6. A parallel healthcare system would unburdon the current public system by allowing people who can afford other treatment, to find another way of getting it, there-by reducing the number of people waiting for treatment in the public system, hence, increasing the quality of service to public facilities.

As for your comment on the U.S health care system, the U.S actually has a public health care system available to people called "medicare", where-by it pay's percentages of certain medical costs, however, having a discussion on U.S health care is irrelavan't because this is nowhere near the type of system most countries use, and also nowhere near the system that should be or is being proposed in Canada.

so...I say again, Canada has a serious healthcare problem, thanks to the liberals.
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