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Old 12-23-2003, 03:59 PM   #16
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Good Tires is a must in the winter. Why would you want to skimp on tires, when itís the only part of the car that contacts the road (four little patches is all you have)?

All Season tires are just thatÖ okay in the summer, okay in the rain, and okay in the snow.

Snow tires are meant for Ice and Snow. Iíve been running snows for 5 years, and wonít go back.
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Old 12-24-2003, 01:11 PM   #17
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Mich. Arctic Alpines suck a mean one. Had them on my E34 and I couldn't get anywhere. I've learned now and have Blizzack WS-50's on my E36. Drove home in 5 inches of snow no problem.

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Old 12-24-2003, 05:06 PM   #18
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Mich. Arctic Alpines suck a mean one. Had them on my E34 and I couldn't get anywhere. I've learned now and have Blizzack WS-50's on my E36. Drove home in 5 inches of snow no problem.

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I've got Michelin Arctic Alpine's on my beater and am looking forward to some serious winter driving across lawns etc.... Don't really know yet what to expect but the few inches we did get a few weeks back they seemed great. I also noticed they are VERY quite on the highway (compared to other winter tires).
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Old 12-24-2003, 08:17 PM   #19
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I've got Michelin Arctic Alpine's on my beater and am looking forward to some serious winter driving across lawns etc.... Don't really know yet what to expect but the few inches we did get a few weeks back they seemed great. I also noticed they are VERY quite on the highway (compared to other winter tires).
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Old 12-24-2003, 10:31 PM   #20
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The problem with rhino liner is that any sort of rust already on your car will be "sealed" under the sprayed on liner just eating away at the unprotected metal. I guess it might work for a newer car, but why go through the hassel if a proper oil underspray only costs $90 @ Krown?


does the oil underspray come off when you wash the car ? like for the summer , i wash my car about 1 aweek , would i need to do this every winter ? i was thinking of doing the lining after i strip and paint the car . i would want to strip and protect the bottom. my plans are ,if it would be possible to do is retore the car to almost new . minus some aftermarket goodies . it would look stock. a sleeper . so i would protect the bottom with no rust . i seen on trucks , he got his truck sprayed with this protected lining under and on the bed . this stuff is strong . it is used in some goverment biuldings . they showed a cinderblock droping off about 10 to 20 feet high shaddered . with this lining put around the block just bounced up about 1 foot , did not break at all. its like bomb proffing your car lol . but something like this i wanted to look into so that i wouldnt need to wurry about rust under the car and wheel wells . but thanks for your info and any more you would have .
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Old 12-24-2003, 11:28 PM   #21
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[b]The problem with rhino liner is that any sort of rust already on your car will be "sealed" under the sprayed on liner just eating away at the unprotected metal. I guess it might work for a newer car, but why go through the hassel if a proper oil underspray only costs $90 @ Krown?
Just curious... if I'm not mistaken rust oxide requires oxygen as it's prime inhibitor to take place.

*thinking back many years*... correct me if I'm wrong anyone:

Water is an electrolyte, when it hits a metal (iron) it combines with carbon dioxide in the AIR, making a very weak acid... (though a stronger electrolyte). The acid disolves the iron, and the water breaks down to it's component pieces... (h2o) Hydrogen and Oxygen. The oxygen binds into the metal, hence creating an iron oxide.. (aka RUST.)

For those who are curious----the reason salt makes a car rust quicker is because the combination of salt in the water makes again, an ever stronger electrolyte / acid... it speeds up the process.

With all that said, as long as the bottom is thoroughly dry, and you apply the water & air tight rhino-style liner, I don't see how rust can form or continue to flourish. The only thing I'd question is if your muffler and such can release heat as effectively... and if you ever have to unbolt anything, it'd be pretty tough to do with that liner over it.

Correct me if I've made any errors anyone...

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