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Old 04-14-2014, 09:16 PM   #1
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128i suspicious...

Hey all,

So I've been in the market for a new car for a while and with the warm weather coming along I've started hunting down a few cars.

I came across a 128i that apparently had no collisions but when I looked at the CarFax it had damage to the front bumper. The sales associate told me it was just a bumper replacement but in the description of the collision it stated a $10,000 repair! :|

Now please correct me if I am wrong, and I don't mind being wrong but, there must be more to this accident than just a bumper repair.

TL;DR shady sales person, telling me car had just a bumper replacement...reality is the repair costed 10K...I'm now suspicious...

Thoughts??
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:46 PM   #2
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Is the dealer in the Jane & Finch area? Walk away...
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:13 PM   #3
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Haha, it is actually. I guess they have a poor reputation...

Thanks for the heads up. I guess my bmw search continues!
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:14 PM   #4
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I don't know what specific dealer you were at, but the ones in that area are notorious. They seem to like the "good from far but far from good" BMWs. Not surprised they'd tell you a story to sell a previously damaged car.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:16 PM   #5
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What is the dealership called? Google it and likely find many reviews...I would just walk away from it
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:42 PM   #6
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yeah i just walked away from the dealership.

i dont want to say the name of the dealership...might be against forum rules or something to bad mouth a place.

but i think theres a general consensus that if you looking for BMW's stay away of that area!

from one BMW fan to another, thanks guys for giving me the heads up
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:05 PM   #7
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GL on finding something, I own a E82 and love it! Just pay the premium and buy CPO from the dealer if you can't find one from an enthusiast.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:00 PM   #8
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GL on finding something, I own a E82 and love it! Just pay the premium and buy CPO from the dealer if you can't find one from an enthusiast.
I bet you do love it! Haha who wouldn't!
And thanks, yeah I think those are really the only options at this point. Too many sales people trying to make a quick buck and pull a fast one on people
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:00 PM   #9
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Hey all,

So I've been in the market for a new car for a while and with the warm weather coming along I've started hunting down a few cars.

I came across a 128i that apparently had no collisions but when I looked at the CarFax it had damage to the front bumper. The sales associate told me it was just a bumper replacement but in the description of the collision it stated a $10,000 repair! :|

Now please correct me if I am wrong, and I don't mind being wrong but, there must be more to this accident than just a bumper repair.

TL;DR shady sales person, telling me car had just a bumper replacement...reality is the repair costed 10K...I'm now suspicious...

Thoughts??
If Carfax stated $10000 in repair n you know that replacing bumper
Might be in the $2000 range(OEM) then walk away,obviously
you knew the salesperson is not presenting himself honestly.

Take your time n do your DD when buying a car
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:22 AM   #10
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I wouldn't be worried about the 10K repair, I would be worried about the lies that you are being fed.
It doesn't take much to rack up 10K these days on cars, body shops are raping the insurance companies for every penny they can.
I bet you it went like this;
Bumper + Painte ~2-2500$
Misc clips/plastic trim 5-700$
Front Foglights (if equipped) 5-600$ plus install?
AC Condenser/Radiator? etc 1000-1500 plus install?
Storage fees (while the insurance guy finds time to go see it) $4-500?
Bumper grills? 100-200?
Any other BS shit those guys decide to charge $$???

My co-worker bumped someone from the back with his escape.
The car needed bumper, fogs, some misc trim and a grill. He drove it for 2 weeks after the accident before dropping it off to get repaired.

They replaced the WHOLE FRONT END!!! Hood, grill, radiator, Ac condencer, rad support, headlights, etc etc etc.... To make a quick buck.

If you really like the car, can get it for a decent price, etc, get it PPI'd and leave a few bucks in your pocket. I'd rather know a car was repaired properly (since 90% of cars are in some sort of a collision over their life), then some cars with clean carproof that have been pieced together at the back of a driveway somewhere.
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Old 04-16-2014, 02:03 PM   #11
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I wouldn't be worried about the 10K repair, I would be worried about the lies that you are being fed.
It doesn't take much to rack up 10K these days on cars, body shops are raping the insurance companies for every penny they can.
I bet you it went like this;
Bumper + Painte ~2-2500$
Misc clips/plastic trim 5-700$
Front Foglights (if equipped) 5-600$ plus install?
AC Condenser/Radiator? etc 1000-1500 plus install?
Storage fees (while the insurance guy finds time to go see it) $4-500?
Bumper grills? 100-200?
Any other BS shit those guys decide to charge $$???

My co-worker bumped someone from the back with his escape.
The car needed bumper, fogs, some misc trim and a grill. He drove it for 2 weeks after the accident before dropping it off to get repaired.

They replaced the WHOLE FRONT END!!! Hood, grill, radiator, Ac condencer, rad support, headlights, etc etc etc.... To make a quick buck.

If you really like the car, can get it for a decent price, etc, get it PPI'd and leave a few bucks in your pocket. I'd rather know a car was repaired properly (since 90% of cars are in some sort of a collision over their life), then some cars with clean carproof that have been pieced together at the back of a driveway somewhere.
Excellent point and well laid out. I guess you have to consider every side of the story and in this case a lot of repair shops are just trying to take advantage of the system and make a quick buck
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I'd rather know a car was repaired properly (since 90% of cars are in some sort of a collision over their life), then some cars with clean carproof that have been pieced together at the back of a driveway somewhere.
Unfortunately dealers almost never provide any real details on the repairs. And it isn't realistic for the average PPI to determine if the repair was 100%. They're not going to put the car on the rack to check the frame for straightness. Or do a full alignment to make sure it can be aligned to spec. Or check all of the the wiring for sketchy splices. Or spray everything with water to see if any seals are compromised. Or...

Plus then you still have to deal with selling the car someday. There are ALOT of people that simply will not look at a car if it doesn't have a clean Carproof.

I fully understand your point that there are sketchy cars with clean Carproofs though!
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There are so many "clean cars" with clean Carproofs...I remember, cars from Quebec were really bad, now, I've heard that the provinces share/disclose information...
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a carproof costs what, 30$?

for 100$ you can have someone who knows these cars in and out tell you exactly what was replaced, how hard it was hit, and more importantly the overall shape of the car.
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a carproof costs what, 30$?

for 100$ you can have someone who knows these cars in and out tell you exactly what was replaced, how hard it was hit, and more importantly the overall shape of the car.
Totally agree with you!
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