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Old 07-30-2013, 04:26 PM   #1
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Looking for R-12 Freon

okay okay, now I know that R-12 is more damaging to the environment than R-134, but I'd like to try running it through my AC; it's just not cold enough.

Does anyone know where I can pay to have my car refilled with R-12 or a place I can buy it?

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Old 07-30-2013, 06:36 PM   #2
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:37 AM   #3
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If your AC is not cold enough there is usually something else wrong with the system.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:38 AM   #4
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I have the same problem: need a recharge but don't want to convert.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:34 AM   #5
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it is next to impossible to get R-12. is not much better then R-134A
to be honest, all you need is a fitting for the AC line for the new style guages to connect to.

Evac the system. run it under a vacuum for about 30 minutes. recharge with 134a
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r12 works much better.

its not impossible to get. walmart in buffalo has it.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:13 PM   #7
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r12 works much better.

its not impossible to get. walmart in buffalo has it.
^ Impossible. You need EPA license to purchase R12, and only a few dealers will have it. It hasn't been in production since mid-90ties.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:44 PM   #8
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Princess Auto carries an R12 replacement, not sure if it's in stock anywhere though
http://www.princessauto.com/pal/Rech...-Kit/8303281.p
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^ Impossible. You need EPA license to purchase R12, and only a few dealers will have it. It hasn't been in production since mid-90ties.
looks like you're right, i must've been confusing it with another refrigerant
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Princess Auto carries an R12 replacement, not sure if it's in stock anywhere though
http://www.princessauto.com/pal/Rech...-Kit/8303281.p
I've seen this around, they call it R12a, not quite sure how it compares though. Still looking!
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #11
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R12a or by another brand called Duracool is environmentally friendly. that is why Can tire can sell it. I have it in both my cars and have to say it is relatively cold. On super hot days?? the best systems don't get cold enough. that's when you throw on the recirc button.

I put a new fitting on the low pressure side, evacuated the system and filled it up with R12a. took about 3-4 cans or roughly 2lbs. manual calls for 2.1 for e30 systems.

the e30 system was never that efficient for cooling unlike other cars. this has been my experience and tech's who've been around long enough also say this.
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R12a or by another brand called Duracool is environmentally friendly. that is why Can tire can sell it. I have it in both my cars and have to say it is relatively cold. On super hot days?? the best systems don't get cold enough. that's when you throw on the recirc button.

I put a new fitting on the low pressure side, evacuated the system and filled it up with R12a. took about 3-4 cans or roughly 2lbs. manual calls for 2.1 for e30 systems.

the e30 system was never that efficient for cooling unlike other cars. this has been my experience and tech's who've been around long enough also say this.
R12a, Duracool, Mastercool, etc. is basically a propane/butane mix. I've been using it for several years and for the price it's hard to beat.

3-4 cans for e30 sounds too much. You only need about 35% by weight of the R12a stuff comparing to R12 or 40% for R134a systems. So 2 cans usually do the trick for a regular car.
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