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Old 03-07-2013, 05:22 AM   #46
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http://plxdevices.com/product_info.php?id=GSSTBLUETOOTH

I use this all the time with my phone
Awesome idea!
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #47
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http://plxdevices.com/product_info.php?id=GSSTBLUETOOTH

I use this all the time with my phone
Will this device read deeper in BMW's fault codes? I've got a pesky check engine light on my e63 that my current OBD II can't register which makes me think that I have to take it in to the dealer to scan or purchase something like a BMTechnic.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:32 PM   #48
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Unlikely. Most independent shops will be able to read it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:04 PM   #49
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Can it just be a quote? It's my understanding that you need to have spent $450 trying to repair the car. If they wrote you up a phony receipt for work that they actually didn't do I could see that working, however that ends up being income that the shop has on the books but didn't actually get, I can't see a shop owner doing that too often as it will cost him when doing taxes.
Not sure if I am reading it wrong but

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...d01_079017.pdf

"If you have a single problem that cannot be corrected
for $450, the vehicle can qualify for the RCL without
any repairs."
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:15 PM   #50
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Not sure if I am reading it wrong but

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...d01_079017.pdf

"If you have a single problem that cannot be corrected
for $450, the vehicle can qualify for the RCL without
any repairs."
Nice. I had read a different brochure from drive clean that made it sound like you HAD to spend $450 first before you could get the conditional pass. That's good to know.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:13 PM   #51
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Will this device read deeper in BMW's fault codes? I've got a pesky check engine light on my e63 that my current OBD II can't register which makes me think that I have to take it in to the dealer to scan or purchase something like a BMTechnic.
Try "Peake Tool".
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:55 PM   #52
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im gonna chime in here, there is no drive clean up north....
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:32 PM   #53
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so just had to deal with this BS today....
pulled my wife's M out of storage last night unexpectedly and unwillingly, go to get a sticker, shit...we need to do the e-test.
FIne. Between last night and this morning we drove about 30K. I clear the check engine light (evap code 0411) and go for a little drive, 10km's later I go in to get it tested. A few minutes later, the tech comes out, "6 Not ready's and that will be 40$--drive it for a few days and come back". Well **** you buddy, my wife isn't gonna drive with expired sticker. So I pay and storm out (I kind of knew this was going to happen) and go driving aimlessly for 60km's, HWY, City, traffic, bla bla bla.. Go back in 3 hours later... "Pass..only one Not read for evap system, but don't worry, every thing fails that one, that will be another 20$".

So in other words, **** you new E-test.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:35 PM   #54
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Yes, the evap can only be cleared within a certain ambient temp
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:00 PM   #55
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so just had to deal with this BS today....
pulled my wife's M out of storage last night unexpectedly and unwillingly, go to get a sticker, shit...we need to do the e-test.
FIne. Between last night and this morning we drove about 30K. I clear the check engine light (evap code 0411) and go for a little drive, 10km's later I go in to get it tested. A few minutes later, the tech comes out, "6 Not ready's and that will be 40$--drive it for a few days and come back". Well **** you buddy, my wife isn't gonna drive with expired sticker. So I pay and storm out (I kind of knew this was going to happen) and go driving aimlessly for 60km's, HWY, City, traffic, bla bla bla.. Go back in 3 hours later... "Pass..only one Not read for evap system, but don't worry, every thing fails that one, that will be another 20$".

So in other words, **** you new E-test.


I have now worked on several bmw's with codes that were cleared/problem fixed and then cleared for an etest. It was mentioned on the first page it is simple as driving for 20min and then just going for the test since the readiness is good to go and closed loop etc.

Absolutely 110% wrong!

The above issue posted by bmwm5lover is a prime example. We recently had a e90 in for a service and etest, CEL light was on, EVAP system fault (turns out to be the pump) any ways there is criteria that needs to be met before a readiness is allowed. On an e90 the evap pump ONLY runs every other time once criteria such as this is met...5 hours sitting off, 20 min+ driving at no more or less than X speed, temp and altitude criteria met and so on. Therefore you could literally drive for days or weeks before this pump engages. BMW has a protocal they run them through to assure the test is done on an evap pump, major PITA but that is life.

So in saying that we have seen some cars drive around that day and pass (be ready) others take days, we have come to explain to customers that if they are in today for a service and expect to be passing the etest all in one and have a fault in the dme related to essentials, it isnt going to happen all at once, you will be rebooking.

On a side note my 2002 e46 with 164,000 passed last week, no codes, no problem. However the month before I had a misfire on #2 that cleared and never came back with no obvious reason, luckily I looked well before I had to have the test.

It is a PITA however the key now is to get a scan and a fix if needed well before hand, don;t make it a last day thing.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:59 PM   #56
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U can get tune for you ecu which will show ewrething ready, no need for cats any more
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:07 AM   #57
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^ Unless you get pulled in for a roadside sniffer. It's obvious when a car doesn't have cats, and the fine is astronomical if they determine you have removed emission controls.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:04 AM   #58
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^on the hot engine even without cats u have chance to pass sniffer test. I got pulled over last year on the way to cscs, they went under my car and the cop who went under my car said its looks stock to him so they let me go hehe. If they catch u without emission they taking ur plates and u have to bring ur car to their shop for inspection(before bringing there just install some cats and u r gonna be ok) it's happened to my friend
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^^if they take your plates you can voluntarily have the car marked unfit, get your plate back (sans sticker, but you'll be refunded) then just get a safety and you're back on the road.
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