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Old 02-20-2013, 06:10 PM   #16
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My M5 has wicked rock chips on the front bumper...I got a quote of $1200 to paint that and a bunch of other cosmetic defects. One of my car buff buddies advised me not to fix it.... "You'll forever be chasing the perfect finish". Instead, I spent $80 on Dr. Colorchip and a few hours in the garage.

I took the bumper off and put it on the bench to do this. It feels a bit rough, but at least it looks fine unless you take a closer look.
I am in the exact same boat, my front bumper is full of stone chips and road rash, I know that after painting it and a summer of HWY driving it would look the same, so I had been considering the Dr colorchip stuff. You say you recommend it?
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:34 PM   #17
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Do a respray and then 3M it. I did that with my E46 and it underwent 25,000kms of multiple US roadtrips. The 3M did it's job and not ONE chip appeared on the bumper.

Going to do the same on the E39 in a month or whenever it's on the road.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:34 PM   #18
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Would never buy it if it was 150miles , it's kilometers, already converted. How much would one be w 150 km?

Ill double check carproof but if its clean , you owe me
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:38 PM   #19
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Where can I purchase 10w 60 for good price?
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:45 PM   #20
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Has anyone tried wider tires in the front ? Read on the m5board that if 270s all around make it handle like its on rails, anyone tried it and can confirm? If so what are the widest tires I can throw in the front on the oem rims?
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:32 PM   #21
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Just did carproof , everything is good
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:11 PM   #22
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I am in the exact same boat, my front bumper is full of stone chips and road rash, I know that after painting it and a summer of HWY driving it would look the same, so I had been considering the Dr colorchip stuff. You say you recommend it?
I would say yes....it looked really disgusting beforehand because of the contrast between paint and chip. Afterwards, it looks great from anything more than 2 ft away. It was far from smooth. The chips are just too deep. But the color match is excellent.

I polished the car and it looks really good.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:21 PM   #23
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Has anyone tried wider tires in the front ? Read on the m5board that if 270s all around make it handle like its on rails, anyone tried it and can confirm? If so what are the widest tires I can throw in the front on the oem rims?
At the risk of getting flamed here, I recommend leaving it alone. Some very picky German engineers chose those sizes for a reason, and it wasn't to reduce costs! What a joy it must have been to develop such a car!

I don't like to play with offsets either. Something about scrub radius...

Definitely spend some time on a track to see how it feels. On the street, I've never experienced ANY understeer. On the slow parts of a track, yes. Esp in the rain. If anything, this car could use more rear tire. The rear breaks loose quite easily, but I find drifting and recovery is smooth and controllable. At least better than my ex 540.

Bottom line ... not really necessary IMO.

Did your M5 wheels come with rubber? What did you get? I've chosen Dunlop Direzza Star Spec.
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Keep the original tire size. Side effects of wider tires include more understeer and a lighter wallet.

Not sure if I missed it, how much did you pay for the car?
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Do a respray and then 3M it. I did that with my E46 and it underwent 25,000kms of multiple US roadtrips. The 3M did it's job and not ONE chip appeared on the bumper.

Going to do the same on the E39 in a month or whenever it's on the road.
My front is 3M'd (you know this! We've had this discussion) and it still looks like poop.
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Keep the original tire size. Side effects of wider tires include more understeer and a lighter wallet.
Ummm, not even close, wider tires will cause you to OVER steer. The lighter wallet is merely a consequence of A MUST HAVE modification on the M5.
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I would say yes....it looked really disgusting beforehand because of the contrast between paint and chip. Afterwards, it looks great from anything more than 2 ft away. It was far from smooth. The chips are just too deep. But the color match is excellent.

I polished the car and it looks really good.
Thanks for the feedback. I will do it this year then.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:16 AM   #28
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At the risk of getting flamed here, I recommend leaving it alone. Some very picky German engineers chose those sizes for a reason, and it wasn't to reduce costs!
Yes, they chose that because most drivers cannot handle a vehicle that is oversteering. Also, plowing the side into a tree is a lot more dangerous in an extreme situation than hitting something head on and all of the air bags deploy. That is why they did it.

Although it is ultimately personal choice and preference, there is absolutely no debating the fact that the handling of the M5 is crippled by the thin front wheels in its OEM configurations.

I currently can compare back to back whenever I want, as my M5 has the 275/35/18 with OEM 9.5" wheel on all four corners where as my wife's M5 is on the stock staggered M5 set up (for now). The difference is night and day in anything more than putting along in town traffic.
Being on the track, carving the tail of the dragon or some country road, there is simply no comparison.
If the performance is not something that will make you switch, the wider rubber and the bigger lip on the 9.5" wheel should be the sole reason to make you switch.


PS, dee007, this ISN't a chat room, stop posting one liners in each post. Compile your thoughts in one post and THEN hit submit.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:33 PM   #29
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Hopefully, the inexperienced driver doesn't switch the stability control off!

Interesting points about the square setup.... I'm intrigued since I haven't bought the Dunlops yet. I just figured something stickier overall would be a good idea.

I just thought of another possible reason for the staggered setup. Less tramlining??? How does the square setup feel in that respect?

Now I have the same question as deee007... what's the widest for the stock 8.5" front wheels?
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Stock wheels are 8" wide not 8.5. Running a 245 is already wide enough on that narrow wheel.
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My front is 3M'd (you know this! We've had this discussion) and it still looks like poop.
I meant redo it all for that perfect showroom finish that lasts
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